Mets Geek » Link Dump: February 19th, 2009

Comment posted by sheadenizen on February 19, 2009 at 12:25 pm (#931271)

I’m a Conroy fan as well, Dave.

Comment posted by sweetlew is an unapologetic conservative! on February 19, 2009 at 12:29 pm (#931272)

I have read a few Conroy novels — I have never been disappointed — although, the Prince of Tides was not my cup of tea!

Comment posted by Dave in Spain on February 19, 2009 at 12:31 pm (#931273)

There are writers I like better overall, but Conroy can put together words as well as anyone. The Prince of Tides has some beautiful writing on just about every page. Very southern. John Irving is one of my favorites for his stories and overall style. Jeffrey Eugenides was great in Middlesex (thanks Lister!), and Walter Moseley sets up character as well as anyone I´ve read.

Comment posted by MetsFanSince71 on February 19, 2009 at 12:31 pm (#931274)

the Prince of Tides was not my cup of tea!

really, Lew??
I’m kinda surprised

beep

Comment posted by JamesSC on February 19, 2009 at 12:32 pm (#931275)

They knocked on the door of Sucart’s home, but no one answered. The producer proceeded to phone the home and his wife Carmen answered.

“I told you my husband has nothing to say,” Carmen told the producer. “What A-Rod said at the press conference is what happened and that is all. And if you want to talk to my husband, why don’t you talk to his lawyer?”

Reports are god damn a-holes, this guy should not have people banging on his door and being hunted down like this. We should find this reporters house and go baning on their door in the middle of the night and ask them why the (%&)$( they are such )(%()$ a-holes and do they care to comment.

Comment posted by sheadenizen on February 19, 2009 at 12:33 pm (#931276)

Switzerland’s largest bank and U.S. officials have been negotiating intensely since allegations surfaced last year that UBS helped as many as 17,000 Americans conceal up to $20 billion.

Bet all of them were against the stimulus and totally in favor of tax cuts….lol!

Comment posted by Dave in Spain on February 19, 2009 at 12:34 pm (#931277)

There was so much in Prince of Tides that never made the movie (though they did do a decent job with the movie, given the limitations). The whole story of the brother wasn´t in the film, but was a great part of the book.

Comment posted by Dave in Spain on February 19, 2009 at 12:35 pm (#931278)

I forget Isabel Allende. I´ve always liked her books, though I haven´t read any in Spanish yet. Someday soon…

Comment posted by littlefallsmets on February 19, 2009 at 12:36 pm (#931279)

Like I say, I’m just not in the mood for crucifying dudes just for ‘roiding anymore. It was wrong, it is wrong but… so many people did it that I’m sure, at this point, that guys on my team did it and players that I liked on other teams did it and… it feels awful and weird at this point to dogpile when I know what’s coming down the line.

Now, dogpiling on dudes for doing it AND being douches like Bonds and Clemens… or for doing it AND being cowards like McGwire or Souser or whatever, that’s different but…

I’m sure there’s a few guys I rooted for on the list of 104 and I ain’t got it in me anymore.

Comment posted by sheadenizen on February 19, 2009 at 12:37 pm (#931280)

I usually hate movies made from a favorite book of mine, but I agree they did a decent job on Prince of Tides.

Comment posted by sweetlew is an unapologetic conservative! on February 19, 2009 at 12:37 pm (#931281)

Reports are god damn a-holes, this guy should not have people banging on his door and being hunted down like this.

Then he should put up “No Trespassing” signs on his front lawn.

Comment posted by sweetlew is an unapologetic conservative! on February 19, 2009 at 12:38 pm (#931282)

I haven’t read a John Irving book in a while.

His stuff from the 70’s was fantastic!

Comment posted by sweetlew is an unapologetic conservative! on February 19, 2009 at 12:41 pm (#931283)

So — is going to Canada really a “foreign trip”?

I mean, aren’t they just US-lite up there?

Comment posted by Dave in Spain on February 19, 2009 at 12:43 pm (#931284)

Lew- The first time I read Cider House Rules I didn´t get into it too much, as it was such a change from Garp and Hotel New Hampshire. But on second reading it became my favorite. The only one that didn´t work for me was Son of a Circus, because I couldn´t really identify with the narrator. Some the the more recent ones haven´t grabbed me as much as the earlier stuff, but I still enjoyed them
The movie Door in the Floor, with Jeff Bridges and Kim Basinger, was based on part of Widow for One Year.

Comment posted by sheadenizen on February 19, 2009 at 12:43 pm (#931285)

lew, question. As someone who was against the stimulus, I’m interested in your opinion regarding Govs Jindal and Sanford saying they may not take the money. Should the people in their states be punished for their ideology? Just curious to hear your take. I personally don’t care if they take it or not.
I apologize to everyone in advance for this question. I won’t pursue it, I promise. I was just curious to hear lew’s take.

Comment posted by tim in St. Louis on February 19, 2009 at 12:43 pm (#931286)

cider house rules was a great book.

Comment posted by Dave in Spain on February 19, 2009 at 12:47 pm (#931287)

CHR was also a decent movie adaptation.

Comment posted by sweetlew is an unapologetic conservative! on February 19, 2009 at 12:48 pm (#931288)

lew, question. As someone who was against the stimulus, I’m interested in your opinion regarding Govs Jindal and Sanford saying they may not take the money. Should the people in their states be punished for their ideology?

Honestly, it would come down to what strings are attached to the money in the stimulus package — I don’t think any governor in his right mind would turn down federal dollars to his state — regardless of ideology.

I also know of very, very few federal governmental handouts that don’t come with strings (how else do you explain the uniform 21 year old drinking age?)

I haven’t had a chance to read enough about the rationale for turning down the money to make an informed statement.

But I would be very, very suprised if the reason has anything to do with political beliefs.

I mean, shit, I was against the stimulus, but I am not giving back the extra $50 I got in my paycheck due to the tax reduction!

Comment posted by tim in St. Louis on February 19, 2009 at 12:49 pm (#931289)

it was, For some reason, when I read that book I don’t picture Caine as Dr. Larch, I see Anthony Hopkins….does anybody else?

Comment posted by sweetlew is an unapologetic conservative! on February 19, 2009 at 12:50 pm (#931290)

I haven’t read CHR

I read Garp and two other books I cannot recall right now.

I loved Garp.

Comment posted by tim in St. Louis on February 19, 2009 at 12:51 pm (#931291)

I was no fan of Bush’s handout either…..but I spent that money non the less.

Comment posted by sheadenizen on February 19, 2009 at 12:54 pm (#931292)

Jindal will be on Meet the Press Sunday, so I guess we’ll hear his rationale.
Thanks, lew.

Comment posted by tim in St. Louis on February 19, 2009 at 12:56 pm (#931293)

shea, when are you heading south?

Comment posted by sweetlew is an unapologetic conservative! on February 19, 2009 at 12:58 pm (#931294)

I was no fan of Bush’s handout either…..but I spent that money non the less.

On diapers!

I don’t like the theory of government handouts, but I will always take free money.

I guess I am cheap that way!

Comment posted by tim in St. Louis on February 19, 2009 at 12:59 pm (#931295)

diapers, formula, diapers, beer, diapers, hand sanitizer and ammo.

Comment posted by Squadron Nye on February 19, 2009 at 12:59 pm (#931296)

I told my parents to file a tax return for the first time in 20 years to receive the bush handouts. They haven’t paid taxes in years. I was ineligible. It just seems creepy for the government to be handing out cash money to people for no reason.

As long as people spend all of the money it IS stimulating thought.

Comment posted by sweetlew is an unapologetic conservative! on February 19, 2009 at 1:00 pm (#931297)

Now, this is funny:

A man sat at a local bar and said, “This is a special day, I´m celebrating.” “What a coincidence,” said the woman next to him. I´m celebrating, too” she replied, clinking glasses with him. “What are your celebrating?” “I´m a chicken farmer, and for years all my hens were infertile, but today they´re finally fertile.” “What a coincidence, the woman said, for my husband and I have been trying to have a child. Today, my gynecologist told me I´m pregnant! How did your chickens become fertile?” she asked. “I switched cocks,” he replied. “What a coincidence,” she said.

Comment posted by sweetlew is an unapologetic conservative! on February 19, 2009 at 1:04 pm (#931298)

As long as people spend all of the money it IS stimulating thought

Yep — unfortunately it will also stimulate inflation.

There is a line to walk between getting us out of the current mess and not fucking us too badly three years down the road.

I don’t want to debate the merits one way or the other, but that is many people’s biggest hang-up over the stimulus.

Honestly, I go back and forth, I just wish there was a lot less pork in the stimulus — unfortunately, nothing comes out of DC without wasteful spending — I should know, I work in the #1 ranked lobbying law firm in the country (but I am not a lobbyist!)

Comment posted by littlefallsmets on February 19, 2009 at 1:19 pm (#931299)

Not to get too much into it, either, but…

Things are turning so entirely sideways so fast that, like, the admitted risk of some inflation is short-term inconsequencial in comparison, I feel.

The difficulty with tax cuts is that ultimately the rich will hoard their money or spend it out-of-country in some manner, the middle class will plow it into debt-reduction which won’t stimulate the economy and the poor, frankly, there’s only so much effect that cutting the taxes on people who aren’t taxed much to begin with will do.

Creating jobs risks inflationary pressure, yeah, but giving money to the financial system and large business caused those businesses to… hoard the money and/or give it to the already obscenely wealthy… and cutting taxes in this environment wouldn’t really go back into the system either.

Creating jobs, though, makes money that will actually cycle through the system.

And that’s what we need desperately.

Comment posted by sweetlew is an unapologetic conservative! on February 19, 2009 at 1:26 pm (#931300)

Two things:

the admitted risk of some inflation is short-term inconsequencial in comparison, I feel.

The key here is how much is “some” I agree that small inflation is worth it, but if it hits too soon or spikes too high, we will repeat the late 70’s.

the middle class will plow it into debt-reduction which won’t stimulate the economy and the poor, frankly, there’s only so much effect that cutting the taxes on people who aren’t taxed much to begin with will do

The poor will invariably spend all of the tax cut/hand outs because they have to. Believe it or not, the R’s proposed stimulus package only had tax cuts in it for the lowest two tax brackets.

Plowing the money into debt reduction will help stimulate things because it will a) reduce the amount of outstanding credit that banks have on the books making it easier for them to loan, and b) it will help stave off further defaults

Comment posted by sheadenizen on February 19, 2009 at 1:30 pm (#931301)

shea, when are you heading south?

I’m leaving on march 12th.

Comment posted by Dave in Spain on February 19, 2009 at 1:30 pm (#931302)

Language oops-
In catalan, the word ¨Can¨ means neighborhood, or something similar. Restaurants are often named after the neighborhood. There used to be a restaurant in our area named ¨Can Fart¨.
In Portugal last year I saw a restaurant named ¨Restaurant Fartos Brutos¨.
There was a hardware store (ferreteria in spanish)in our town that wanted to open an online store. It being fashionable to use english words, they decided on HardOn. My language school called them to explain, as delicately as possible, the meaning of their new name. The website was changed the next day (though it reminds me of Snap-On Tools back in the US).

Comment posted by sweetlew is an unapologetic conservative! on February 19, 2009 at 1:32 pm (#931303)

LOL Dave.

You need to check out Fail blog and some of the translation gaffes.

Their “engrish funny” site is horribly racist and offensive but damn funny!

Comment posted by sheadenizen on February 19, 2009 at 1:34 pm (#931304)

and the poor, frankly, there’s only so much effect that cutting the taxes on people who aren’t taxed much to begin with will do.

Giving money to the poor is actually a very effective stimulus. They HAVE to spend the money. Food stamps actually give you the biggest bang for the buck. Literally….

Comment posted by Dave in Spain on February 19, 2009 at 1:36 pm (#931305)

I´ve seen that Lew–it´s a hoot!
I always chuckle when I pass a bar in our town–Bar Lip Lap.

Comment posted by sweetlew is an unapologetic conservative! on February 19, 2009 at 1:37 pm (#931306)

I love the fact that Hank Aaron told Griffey that he should go play in Seattle.

Way to fuck your former franchise there Hank!

Comment posted by sweetlew is an unapologetic conservative! on February 19, 2009 at 1:39 pm (#931307)

It was kind of like when Beltran said he could succeed in any hole!

I am sure his wife didn’t appreciate him spilling intimate details like that!

Comment posted by MetsFanSince71 on February 19, 2009 at 1:50 pm (#931309)

speaking of trips, I need a vacation….

Comment posted by Jessica on February 19, 2009 at 1:54 pm (#931310)

*snickers at inadvertent dirty language*

Comment posted by Dep on February 19, 2009 at 1:56 pm (#931312)

hahahah, my boss is being such a JERK today

I’m having quitting fantasies again. ruh roh!

2pm meeting! see youuuuu lata!

Comment posted by sweetlew is an unapologetic conservative! on February 19, 2009 at 1:58 pm (#931313)

hahahah, my boss is being such a JERK today

The horror of actually having to work during the work day!

That bastard! ;)

Comment posted by sweetlew is an unapologetic conservative! on February 19, 2009 at 2:00 pm (#931314)

*snickers at inadvertent dirty language*

I always knew you enjoyed the guys juvenille humor!

Comment posted by littlefallsmets on February 19, 2009 at 2:00 pm (#931315)

I don’t know if depriving your team of a repeatedly injured part-time left-fielder is “fucking” them exactly…

Comment posted by sweetlew is an unapologetic conservative! on February 19, 2009 at 2:10 pm (#931316)

Have you seen what the Braves have in the outfield?

I think if a fragile old Griffey would have been one heckuva upgrade!

Comment posted by Dep on February 19, 2009 at 2:13 pm (#931317)

my 2pm is late

lol lew, you would’ve broken my boss’s neck by now, trust me. He’s just a jerk.

The Bulls have traded Larry Hughes to the Knicks for Tim Thomas, Anthony Roberson and Jerome James, according to league sources as reported by ESPN.com.
Hughes should be picked up in most leagues, as he’s going to get run for the still short-handed Knicks. However, it remains to be seen if Thomas will play for the Bulls, as he has a history with them and was sent home by Scott Skiles a few years ago. James’ career is over due to a ruptured Achilles, and Roberson’s not good enough to break through for the Bulls this year.
Source: ESPN.com

ESPN.com is reporting that the Knicks have traded Malik Rose’s expiring contract to Oklahoma City for Chris Wilcox and his expiring deal.
Wilcox will probably get nice run for the undersized Knicks, although this trade is not yet official, and won’t be until a physical is passed by both players. Wilcox should be a decent source of double-doubles, but doesn’t block shots.
Source: ESPN.com

Comment posted by sweetlew is an unapologetic conservative! on February 19, 2009 at 2:16 pm (#931318)

You can’t make this shit up:

Minnesota wrestling legend Verne Gagne has been implicated in the death of a fellow nursing home resident, who died a few weeks after he was injured in an altercation with Gagne.

The incident was first reported by MinnPost.com. The Web site reported that both the 82-year-old Gagne and the man who died, 97-year-old Helmut Gutmann, were residents of the memory loss unit at Friendship Village in Bloomington and suffered from Alzheimer’s-related dementia.

On Jan. 26, Gagne apparently threw Gutmann to the floor, breaking his hip. He was treated at a hospital and released, but was later re-hospitalized, KMSP-TV said. He died Saturday, the station said.

Comment posted by sweetlew is an unapologetic conservative! on February 19, 2009 at 2:18 pm (#931319)

Man — every trade by the new Knick’s regime makes Isaih look dumber and dumber.

My favorite will be that they don’t allow Marbury a buy out until it is too late for him to play in the play-offs!

Comment posted by sweetlew is an unapologetic conservative! on February 19, 2009 at 2:19 pm (#931320)

lol lew, you would’ve broken my boss’s neck by now, trust me. He’s just a jerk.

I have a hard time tolerating jerks and stupidity. Stupid jerks really, really get to me!

Comment posted by sweetlew is an unapologetic conservative! on February 19, 2009 at 2:21 pm (#931321)

The Bulls have traded Larry Hughes to the Knicks for Tim Thomas, Anthony Roberson and Jerome James, according to league sources as reported by ESPN.com.

What do the Bulls get? Can they just release those clowns? Or did they need to move Hughes for some reason?

I can’t believe they were able to move James — the worst signing in the history of professional sports — his contract made Kevin Brown’s look like a great deal!

Comment posted by sweetlew is an unapologetic conservative! on February 19, 2009 at 2:25 pm (#931322)

I wonder if this means the Knicks will sign Ewing, jr. now that they will have a couple of roster spots

Comment posted by Confused on February 19, 2009 at 2:26 pm (#931323)

Braves Leaning Toward Internal Options In OF
By Tim Dierkes [February 19 at 1:12pm CST]

ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick talked to Braves GM Frank Wren, who says the Braves are more likely to try their young outfielders than acquire a veteran outfielder after failing to sign Ken Griffey Jr.

Crasnick adds that the Braves “aren’t very excited” about Garret Anderson and have little to no interest in Jim Edmonds and Luis Gonzalez. He says the salaries of Xavier Nady or Nick Swisher might be prohibitive. Pure speculation on my part - the Braves could definitely afford Luke Scott if he’s available for trade.

Comment posted by fattlipp on February 19, 2009 at 2:31 pm (#931324)

Pretty good camcorder video from Cerrone over at Metsblog. 3:46 of first day of workouts.

Comment posted by sweetlew is an unapologetic conservative! on February 19, 2009 at 2:34 pm (#931325)

Crasnick adds that the Braves “aren’t very excited” about ~~Garret Anderson and have little to no interest in Jim Edmonds and Luis Gonzalez.~~ their internal options but what the hell else ar we supposed to do?

Fixed.

Comment posted by Confused on February 19, 2009 at 2:36 pm (#931326)

a cool ping pong table.

Comment posted by sweetlew is an unapologetic conservative! on February 19, 2009 at 2:41 pm (#931327)

Looking at those trades again, I would have to say that Walsh seriously upgraded the Knicks.

Hughes gives them a legitimate shooting guard who will be playing with a chip on his shoulder.

Wilcox is under-sized, but he can run the floor and will produce in D’antoni’s offense.

And all he gave up are four guys who weren’t in the rotation

Comment posted by stel og stem on February 19, 2009 at 2:44 pm (#931328)

Well he gave up tim Thomas who played but Hughes is prob more useful for them since they needed a shooting guard more.

Comment posted by Confused on February 19, 2009 at 2:48 pm (#931329)

http://www.crapimissedit.com/

Comment posted by sweetlew is an unapologetic conservative! on February 19, 2009 at 3:00 pm (#931330)

I have always hated Thomas — he sucks and was only playing b/c the Knicks really didn’t have another option.

Hughes is a big upgrade — the Bull dealt Hughes mainly b/c they were concerned he would become a bigger headache

Comment posted by sweetlew is an unapologetic conservative! on February 19, 2009 at 3:04 pm (#931331)

That’s a neat little service confused.

Comment posted by sheadenizen on February 19, 2009 at 4:24 pm (#931332)

The FBI just found Allen Sanford. Hang ‘em!

Comment posted by DL on February 19, 2009 at 4:59 pm (#931333)

lol jerome james

i would say that was easily the worst move under isiah but who the hell knows about that anymore

Comment posted by sweetlew is an unapologetic conservative! on February 19, 2009 at 5:31 pm (#931334)

I would classify the James contract as one of the 10 worst contracts in the history of sports.

It is worst than Gary Mathews and Juan Pierre combined.

It makes Castillo’s deal look like a bargain!

Comment posted by Dep on February 19, 2009 at 5:31 pm (#931335)

what up bizitches

Donnie Walsh is a wizard

Did Vince not get traded?

ITS NEVER TOO EARLY FOR PLAYOFF ODDS!!!!!

STAT OF THE DAY

Most Likely Playoff Teams of 2009

Team, Playoff Odds

Cubs, 62.0%
Red Sox, 62.0%
Yankees, 56.5%
Diamondbacks, 53.6%
Mets, 50.9%

Comment posted by Dep on February 19, 2009 at 5:33 pm (#931336)

Larry Hughes is garbage and a punk

Wilcox is niiiice

Comment posted by Danny on February 19, 2009 at 6:06 pm (#931337)

Computers love the Mets.

Their own fans hate them.

Comment posted by Dep on February 19, 2009 at 6:09 pm (#931338)

love this story. makes me think of Remember the Titans and one of the coaches bitch out the kids saying “You didnt come out here to work, CHAMPIONS PAY DA PRICE”

On the main field, I watched the outfielders take batting practice, doing Jerry Manuel’s 80–straight pitch batting drill, which Marty Noble wrote about earlier in the week on MLB.com.

I was tired just watching them. Seriously. Ryan Church came out of the cage, dripping in sweat, looking beat, and he ran right for the Gatorade cooler. Daniel Murphy was no different.

I am not sure who was feeding the pitching machine, but he was pushing these guys hard.

Murphy finished, looked tired, exhaled and shook his head, to which the coach said, “What? That’s right. That’s the price you pay to win a ring.”

Comment posted by Dep on February 19, 2009 at 6:11 pm (#931339)

And i would wager money Razor Shines said that quote

I just KNOW IT ;)

Comment posted by Dep on February 19, 2009 at 6:13 pm (#931340)

Computers love the Mets.

Their own fans hate them.

Skynet would be embarassed by the computers in 07 n 08 ;)

Comment posted by Confused on February 19, 2009 at 6:30 pm (#931341)

the steroid pusher in the wrestler got busted in real life for, u guess it, steroids.

Comment posted by Dep on February 19, 2009 at 6:35 pm (#931342)

damn, the watchmen cut on the BluRay DVD is 3 hrs 10 mins! wow

Comment posted by Confused on February 19, 2009 at 6:36 pm (#931343)

“we arent going to Guam are we?”

Comment posted by Danny on February 19, 2009 at 6:48 pm (#931344)

DAMAGE

Comment posted by Dep on February 19, 2009 at 6:50 pm (#931345)

“we arent going to Guam are we?”

loved that line

also how can you read? my mother taught me a young age

and…

what about the rest of them? WHO CARES.

Gotta run y’allz. catch ya lata

Comment posted by Confused on February 19, 2009 at 7:11 pm (#931346)

A Manhattan jury awarded $2.33 million to a man who lost his leg after drunkenly stumbling onto the path of an oncoming subway train.

The drunk’s lawyer. His name is Smiley.

Dustin Dibble, 25, landed in the subway tracks after a late night watching a hockey game at a bar with friends April 23, 2006. A downtown N train ran over him, severing his right leg. According to Dibble’s lawyer, Andrew Smiley, NYC Transit rather than Dibble bore primary responsibility for the accident because the subway driver had time to stop the train but did not.

Smiley added that Dibble’s drunkenness did not excuse the driver, who said in a court deposition that he mistook Dibble for an inert object.

Dibble’s blood-alcohol level at the time of the accident was .18, according to his lawyer, more than twice the legal limit had he been behind the wheel of a car.

Comment posted by sweetlew is an unapologetic conservative! on February 19, 2009 at 7:27 pm (#931347)

Murphy finished, looked tired, exhaled and shook his head, to which the coach said, “What? That’s right. That’s the price you pay to win a ring.”

Fucking awesome.

Someone needs to put some attitude in these guys, a la the 86 team.

If someone doesn’t charge Hamels, they are a bunch of punks

Comment posted by sweetlew is an unapologetic conservative! on February 19, 2009 at 7:29 pm (#931348)

Smiley added that Dibble’s drunkenness did not excuse the driver, who said in a court deposition that he mistook Dibble for an inert object.

As crazy as it sounds, that legal theory is 100% accurate.

Comment posted by Dep on February 19, 2009 at 9:43 pm (#931349)

hippity
hooplah
!!!

Comment posted by Dep on February 19, 2009 at 9:46 pm (#931350)

wow

pics of rihanna leaked out

Jay-Z needs to MDK Chris Brown

Comment posted by Dep on February 19, 2009 at 10:12 pm (#931351)

ESPNDeportes.com is reporting that “Boli” was not available in the D.R. in pharmacies form 2001-2003. Was just on ESPN bottom line

::giggles::

keep pushing till he jumps out a window.

Comment posted by JamesSC on February 19, 2009 at 10:16 pm (#931352)

Computers love the Mets.

Their own fans hate them.

Correction

Computers love the Mets

The Mets love to torture their fans

Comment posted by Confused on February 19, 2009 at 10:31 pm (#931353)

the crazy ape was a met fan.

Comment posted by The Mad Stork on February 19, 2009 at 10:36 pm (#931354)

The whole friggin planet is against us. We’re doomed!

Comment posted by Dep on February 19, 2009 at 10:52 pm (#931355)

that video scared me :(

lolz

Comment posted by The Mad Stork on February 19, 2009 at 11:33 pm (#931356)

That’s Neil DeGrasse Tyson, Dep. He’s a well known astrophysicist, born and bred in New York City. I loved the last part about our “entertainment complex” being way too close to our “sewage system”. I never thought of it that way, but boy oh boy is that some pretty poor design! Especially if you’ve been unfortunate enough to get too close to someone who isn’t very, uh… hygienic.

Ewwwwwwwww!

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