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January 21, 2009
  
Tim Redding - Season Analysis 2008

Basic Stats

The next pitcher I wanted to take a look at was the recently acquired Tim Redding.  Redding began his major league career in 2001 with the Houston Astros posting a 5.50 ERA in 55 innings.  He spent 4 years with the Astros before leaving in 2005.  He split time between the Yankees and Padres in 2005 going 0-6 with a 10.57 ERA in that year.  He spent the next year and a half in AAA, but in 2007, the Nationals decided to give him another chance.  Redding ended up posting a 3.64 ERA for the 2007 season, the lowest in his career.  Last season, Redding won 10 games but his ERA skyrocketed back up to 4.95, right around his career mark of 4.92. 

 

Let’s take a look at some of Redding’s peripheral statistics.  Redding is not a strikeout pitcher by any means, however he did post a K/9 rate of 5.93 last season, not great but his highest career since 2003 in that department.  One thing that’s alarming is he tends to give up a lot of home runs.  Redding gave up 27 Home Runs last season in 182 innings pitched, the 16th most in all of baseball.  Hopefully Citifield’s outfield configuration will help Redding.  Let’s take a look at Tim Redding’s pitches through Pitch F/X.

 

1) What Does He Throw

 

Using data from MLB Gameday application, we can look further in detail to what Redding threw in 2008.  Redding threw 3138 pitches during the 2008 season, of these gameday has tracked 2998 of those pitches.

 

Pitch Type

Count

Pct Thrown

Avg Speed

Horizontal Move

Vertical Move

4 Seam Fastball

1897

63.28%

90.92

-5.49

9.91

Changeup

197

6.57%

83.01

-5.96

6.84

Slider

526

17.55%

85.15

1.71

5.30

Curveball

378

12.60%

77.94

6.59

-1.09

Grand Total

2998

100.00%

 

 

 

 

Tim Redding has 4 different pitches.  His main pitch is a 4-seam fastball.  As we will see later on, this is by far Tim’s best pitch, getting above average velocity and a good amount of vertical movement.  What he gains in vertical movement (over an inch better than average), he lacks in horizontal movement.  I haven’t seen Tim pitch a whole lot but my guess is that he throws a bit more overhand than your average pitcher.

 

Redding also has a slider.  By looking at the movement, it’s not very good.  He gets decent horizontal movement, however he does not get nearly enough sink on it.  The 5.30 vertical movement is probably one of the highest I’ve seen yet on a slider.

 

The next pitch is the curveball.  This is probably Tim’s second best pitch.  Tim uses this pitch quite often as his go to pitch in strikeout situations.  He gains a lot of horizontal movement and not a whole lot vertical movement.  This pitch to me seems like more of a mix of slider and curveball than a true curveball.

 

Redding’s last pitch is his changeup.  As you can see, he doesn’t throw this pitch very often.  You typically want to see a difference between the fastball and changeup around 10mph and Redding generates about 8 mph.  Also, this pitch (as with the fastball) lacks horizontal movement.  The changeup is Redding’s worst pitch.

 

2) When Does He Throw It?

 

Next lets breakdown Redding’s pitches between Lefty vs. Righty

 

 

Pitch Type

Pct Thrown All

Vs Lefty

Vs Righty

4-Seam Fastball

63.28%

63.54%

62.98%

Changeup

6.57%

11.33%

1.27%

Slider

17.55%

12.34%

23.34%

Curveball

12.60%

12.79%

12.41%

Grand Total

100.00%

100.00%

100.00%

 

Redding does a good job incorporating his other pitches besides his fastball.  He consistently throws his fastball and curveball the same percentage to both lefties and righties.  The biggest difference comes from the slider and changeup.  Redding will hardly throw a changeup to a right handed batter, preferring his slider.  Against lefties, Redding reduces his usage of the slider and adds the changeup.

 

Let’s breakdown Redding’s pitch by count

 

Count

Changeup

Curveball

Fastball

Slider

Total

0-0

4.91%

6.50%

70.29%

18.30%

100.00%

0-1

7.07%

16.85%

61.68%

14.40%

100.00%

0-2

3.14%

23.90%

58.49%

14.47%

100.00%

1-0

9.51%

4.92%

62.62%

22.95%

100.00%

1-1

10.98%

13.65%

59.94%

15.43%

100.00%

1-2

5.15%

31.25%

46.69%

16.91%

100.00%

2-0

7.07%

3.03%

74.75%

15.15%

100.00%

2-1

10.98%

7.32%

55.49%

26.22%

100.00%

2-2

4.05%

21.86%

54.66%

19.43%

100.00%

3-0

0.00%

0.00%

100.00%

0.00%

100.00%

3-1

8.33%

0.00%

81.94%

9.72%

100.00%

3-2

4.44%

7.78%

70.56%

17.22%

100.00%

 

Redding will throw either a first pitch slider or fastball nearly 89% of the time.  Usually Redding introduces his changeup on 1 strike counts (1-1, 2-1).  It seems like his big strikeout pitch is his curveball, using it nearly 24% of the time on 0-2, 31% of the time on 1-2, and 22% on 2-2.  Once he gets to 3 balls, you can pretty much bet your going to get a fastball 3-0 and 3-1.  He all but eliminates the curveball and changeup once he gets to 3 balls.  This might suggest he has a lack of confidence in throwing those pitches for strikes.  Later on, we’ll check the balls/strike pct for his pitches.

 

3) What Happens When He Throws It?

 

In the past I have been trying to breakdown all events by pitch type to see what success a pitcher had with each particular pitch.  The problem with that type of analysis was that I was only focusing on balls in play.  This time I want to try something a bit different that I saw in a hardballtimes article I saw.  I decided to use batting runs to determine the run value of each pitch.  Batting runs is a linear weights run estimator developed by Pete Palmer.  The formula is used to estimate the amount of runs scored/allowed in a season.  Since we aren’t really estimating runs here for the future, I tweaked the formula to use linear weight values from 2008.  These values are the following:

 

Event

Run Value

Single

0.47

Double

0.77

Triple

1.04

Home Run

1.40

Walks and Hit Batters

.310

Out

-0.277

 

These are the weights for 2008.  We know this because Retrosheet maintains play by play data.  The above means that the average single will net you .47 runs.  So you can plug these values into the batting runs formula and it will tell you how many runs above or below average a player is.

 

To determine run values by pitch count, I had to take it a step further.  The run values above tell me the values for balls in play; however it does not help me will all other balls and strikes.  The next step I had to do was figure out the value of a ball and strike in each count.  To do this, I used 2008 data from Baseball Reference.  I looked at the split data for the batting lines for each count.  The values were as follows:

 

Count

Batting Runs Values Above/Below Avg

0-0

0.000

1-0

0.036

2-0

0.099

3-0

0.208

0-1

-0.042

1-1

-0.015

2-1

0.032

3-1

0.131

0-2

-0.099

1-2

-0.078

2-2

-0.039

3-2

0.054

 

Once I did this, I was able to figure out the run value for a ball and strike on each count.  Also the run values for the balls in play had to be adjusted as well per count as shown in the following table:

 

Count

Val Ball

Val Strike

Val 1B

Val 2B

Val 3B

Val HR

Val Out

0-0

0.036

-0.042

0.470

0.770

1.040

1.400

-0.277

1-0

0.063

-0.051

0.434

0.734

1.004

1.364

-0.313

2-0

0.109

-0.068

0.371

0.671

0.941

1.301

-0.376

3-0

0.102

-0.078

0.262

0.562

0.832

1.192

-0.485

0-1

0.027

-0.057

0.512

0.812

1.082

1.442

-0.235

1-1

0.047

-0.062

0.485

0.785

1.055

1.415

-0.262

2-1

0.099

-0.070

0.438

0.738

1.008

1.368

-0.309

3-1

0.179

-0.078

0.339

0.639

0.909

1.269

-0.408

0-2

0.021

-0.178

0.569

0.869

1.139

1.499

-0.178

1-2

0.039

-0.199

0.548

0.848

1.118

1.478

-0.199

2-2

0.093

-0.238

0.509

0.809

1.079

1.439

-0.238

3-2

0.256

-0.331

0.416

0.716

1.346

1.346

-0.331

 

A note as to why the run values needed to be adjusted.  The average single gives you .47 runs. On an 1-0 count, the single gives you .434 runs, a difference of .036  Since you already have given the value of .036 on the 0-0 count (the value of the ball to get you to 1-0) the single is simply the difference of the two. This was done to all events. 

 

The next thing to do was simply take all the events and multiply them to their appropriate weights.  When doing this, I eliminated the 2 strike foul balls.  A 2 strike foul ball does not change the count, thus does not change value either.  While I do believe 2 strike fouls have some value (ie. wearing the pitcher down) I had to eliminate them here.  If you guys have a better idea of what to do with them, let me know.  Anyways this explanation went further then I wanted it to so here are the Run Values for Tim Redding:

 

Pitch

Count

Run Value

Run Value Per Pitch

Changeup

190

4.966

0.026

Curveball

334

5.311

0.016

Fastball

1765

-5.769

-0.003

Slider

490

1.068

0.002

Unknown

134

6.361

0.047

Total

2913

11.937

0.004

 

Since the count of each pitch is different, I added a run value per pitch column so that it’s easier to compare pitches.  Overall, Redding allowed 11.937 runs more than average.  As a result, Redding is 1.19 wins below average.  This is consistent with the numbers from both Fangraphs and Hardball Times Annual.  Here you can see the fastball is clearly his best pitch saving 5.7 runs and his changeup was his worst pitch.  What this chart means is that his fastball is -0.003 greater than the average pitch.  It does not mean it’s better than the average fastball.  To determine that, we would have to figure out whether or not the average fastball saves or allows more runs than the average of the other pitches.

 

Lastly, a comment about the unknown column.  The reason the run value is so high here is partly because Redding allowed 7 intentional walks.  This unknown column also incorporates any pitch that pitch F/X did not track.

 

4) Ball/Strike Percentage

 

If you guys are still with which I’m sure is a very small number by now, I wanted to take a look at one more table.  Here are the percentages per pitch

 

Pitch

Ball

Called Strike

Swinging Strike

Foul

Balls In Play

Total

CH

47.89%

5.79%

7.89%

9.47%

28.96%

100.00%

CU

43.41%

5.39%

11.08%

9.58%

30.54%

100.00%

FA

39.94%

20.91%

6.46%

14.73%

17.96%

100.00%

SL

40.60%

14.29%

11.22%

14.08%

19.80%

100.00%

Total

41.27%

16.92%

7.86%

13.39%

20.56%

100.00%

 

As you can see from the table, Redding doesn’t throw his changeup or curveball for a great percentage of strikes.  The fastball and slider produce the most called strikes as well as the most foul balls.  The slider and curve produce the most swinging strikes.  The curveball and change produce the most balls in play.

 

What’s In Store for 2009

 

Not much.  Tim Redding will be an average pitcher at best and a couple wins below average at his worst.  Pretty much every aspect of his game is below average.  Since I’d imagine that most 4 and 5 pitchers are a run or two below average, Redding seems like a solid option for the 5th spot if the Mets do not find anyone else.


10 Responses to “Tim Redding - Season Analysis 2008”

  1. Comment posted by argonbunnies on January 20, 2009 at 3:36 pm (#921680)

    Oof. Those are some ugly stats on the breaking pitches. Plenty of good pitchers have breaking balls they don’t throw for strikes that often, but those pitches also tend not to get hit much. I wonder if Redding is one of those guys who misses off the plate when he’s trying to catch an edge and throws it down the middle when he’s trying to throw a strike. The curve and change-up results kinda suggest that.

    The above-average fastball results are encouraging, though! That’s at least something you could imagine him building off of.

  2. Comment posted by JamesSC on January 21, 2009 at 11:38 am (#922047)

    I am assuming his 2007 season (his best year) he was throwing to Schneider that year? (I really should look it up but I just can’t bring myself to). Maybe that is some of the thought behind picking him up is that Schneider’s pitch selection and understanding of Redding’s stuff might have been a benefit to him and might make him a more valuable 5th starter/long man

  3. Comment posted by metslaw on January 21, 2009 at 12:34 pm (#922074)

    John, do you think that maybe what you have classified as Redding’s slider is something like a cutter and what you classified as his curveball is actually a slider? I don’t know Redding that well, but it seems like it may be more consistent with the movement of the pitches.

  4. Comment posted by John on January 21, 2009 at 1:50 pm (#922098)

    According to Fangraphs this was the breakdown

    Fastball 64.1% (90.7)
    Slider 17.9 (84.4)
    Curveball 11.5% (77.5)
    Changeup 6.4% (82.9)
    Cutter 0.2% (87.0)

    There is some evidence of a cutter but at .2% we are talking about a very small percentage of pitches.

    I think more likely what people are classifying “curveball” is more likely a “slurve”. Sliders typically run in the 80’s, either the hard slider type in the high 80’s or regular slider mid to low 80’s. 70’s typically mean curve.

    Fangraphs uses different data than the data I get from Gameday…..the two data sets are pretty much in agreement.

    The average CB in 2007 (I don’t have this for 08 but i’d imagine its similar) ran 77 mph with 5.2 horizontal movement and -3.3 vert. So it moves more horizontally and less vertically than your typical curve. To me, i’d say Slurve. I think tho we’ll be able to determine it quite easily once he pitches for the mets.

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  6. Comment posted by Chris in Ga on January 21, 2009 at 7:41 pm (#922190)

    I don’t mean to be an ass but not one breakdown of his 1st half compared to his second half. That is the story that matters to me. How can he go from being slightly above average to horible?

  7. Comment posted by John on January 21, 2009 at 9:06 pm (#922202)

    3.85 1st half
    6.82 2nd half

    if you look at his career numbers tho he actually has a better ERA in the second half than first half. Prehaps I should have looked into it a bit but things happen when you only have 67 innings pitched. But yeah I guess an analysis of 08 I should have mentioned it.

  8. Comment posted by Mango on January 21, 2009 at 9:36 pm (#922207)

    The 1st half vs. 2nd half question might have some merit because of his foot injury (he had surgery in November on his foot). It looks like Redding had a 3.64 ERA in 2007 over 84 innings. Then in 2008, he had a 3.98 ERA through July 24 (126.2 innings). After that, he seriously tailed off. It might be because he tired out, or maybe he hurt his foot and carried on pitching through the end of the year, with the injury affecting the quality of his pitches. It would be interesting if that could be determined.

  9. Comment posted by John on January 21, 2009 at 9:55 pm (#922208)

    Hmm maybe I can break down the chart by half to see if it affected his velocity or movement.

  10. Comment posted by John on January 22, 2009 at 8:47 am (#922234)

    If we use July 24th as the cutoff

    Before 24th
    CH 6.10% 82.92 mph -5.95 7.35
    CU 12.14% 77.82 mph 6.75 -1.14
    FA 62.48% 91.07 mph -5.65 10.23
    SL 19.28% 84.97 mph 1.84 5.41

    After 24th (includes 24th game)
    CH 7.43% 83.13 mph -5.96 6.08
    CU 13.45% 78.13 mph 6.32 -1.00
    FA 64.72% 90.67 mph -5.20 9.36
    SL 14.39% 85.58 mph 1.40 5.05

    So he lost a tick off the fastball but his other pitches picked up in speed. He did seem to have better more movement on the fastball in the first grouping. His pitches had more sink after the 24th.

    Run Values
    Before 24th
    CH 114 1.615 .014
    CU 203 4.579 .023
    FA 1123 -9.424 -.008
    SL 346 -3.251 -.009
    UN 110 4.855 .044

    Total 1896 -1.626
    So he was pretty much league average.

    Afterwards
    CH 76 3.351 .044
    Cu 131 0.732 .006
    FA 642 3.655 .006
    SL 144 4.319 .030
    UN 24 1.506 .062

    Total 1017 13.563

    All pitches were worse. Biggest difference was the slider and changeup.

  11. Comment posted by Jordan Fensterman on January 26, 2009 at 10:52 pm (#923435)

    Tim Reddings Major League stats may not tell the whole story. He was a big time winner at every lengthy stop in the minor leagues and has barely eclipsed 700IP in the Majors. Thats equates to slightly more than three (3) full seasons of MLB experience.

    Check out his Baseball-Reference minor league stats HERE.

    It’s is possible he still has room to grow. To for comparative purposes: Steve Traschel in 2006 had a good enough season for the mets that he won 15 games at 35 years old. Tim Redding is 31.

    Between his only two full seasons in the Major Leagues (2003 & 2008) he improved his K/BB ratio slightly which bodes well for continued success.

    I remain optimistic.

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