Comment posted byDepon September 3, 2008 at 1:37 pm (#828478)
Paul (Sacramento): Buon giorno, Klaw! Come stai? What’s more absurd? The Delgado MVP talk or the CC Cy Young chatter?
SportsNation Keith Law: (1:14 PM ET ) Sabathia. If there was one award for both leagues, fine, but there isn’t, so let’s stop being ridiculous.
Comment posted byRamonon September 3, 2008 at 1:37 pm (#828479)
hahaha I’m with you, man. I think we have every bit the offense that the Cubs do.
Wordalicious!
Comment posted byDepon September 3, 2008 at 1:38 pm (#828480)
Jeff (NYC): should I be excited about Holt and Flores?
SportsNation Keith Law: (1:23 PM ET ) Yes, although I still want to see a better second pitch from Holt.
Comment posted byDepon September 3, 2008 at 1:38 pm (#828481)
not in innings 7-9!
Comment posted byDannyon September 3, 2008 at 1:38 pm (#828482)
Law is so reasonable about Mets prospects. Me likey.
Comment posted byDannyon September 3, 2008 at 1:39 pm (#828483)
not in innings 7-9!
We’ve been rectifying this lately, no!
MARKET CORRECTION
Comment posted byDepon September 3, 2008 at 1:39 pm (#828484)
Mike (Rutland, VT): Hi Keith, Any thoughts on the performance of the Pirates’ front office as it relates to the trade deadline and Alvarez contract mess? Thanks for your time.
SportsNation Keith Law: (1:29 PM ET ) I’ll answer the broader question and hopefully I’ll answer yours in here somewhere. The part that bothers me is that MLB unilaterally bent the rules on the signing deadline. One, they can’t do that without talking to the union. Two, they never even admitted they were doing this until Boras called them out on it. And three, I’m pretty sure that these waivers were abused in at least one instance to allow for continued negotiations, not just dotting i’s and crossing t’s. Should the Pirates’ front office be charged as co-conspirators? I don’t know. If I was Huntington and the Commissioner’s Office said, “Just finish the deal, don’t worry about the clock,” I’d finish the damn deal. By the same token, if I’m Scott Boras and my client gets a $6 million offer that I think is sketchy, I take the deal first and challenge it later so that at least my client has it in his back pocket if he decides he just wants to take the money and run.
Comment posted byDepon September 3, 2008 at 1:39 pm (#828485)
We’ve been rectifying this lately, no!
MARKET CORRECTION
tru dat homey. hope to see it going like that
Comment posted byDepon September 3, 2008 at 1:39 pm (#828486)
lulz: BBRAA. Is Writers spelled Riters these days? P.S. No love for Quentin or Dye in the MVP? Ouch.
SportsNation Keith Law: (1:29 PM ET ) Inside joke on the R. Neither of those guys makes the top 5 for me.
Comment posted byKneel Before Zod!on September 3, 2008 at 1:40 pm (#828487)
not in innings 7-9!
dep,
unfortunately, that’s the not stat
yours,
rogah
Comment posted byRamonon September 3, 2008 at 1:40 pm (#828488)
I thought it was interesting that a scout linkened Holt to Maine in terms of stuff and potential….
Comment posted bymookie03on September 3, 2008 at 1:40 pm (#828489)
if big z is out for any extended period of time, the cubs offense takes a bit of a hit. Then again, johan’s bat hasn’t be anywhere near as good as i expected.
seriously though, the cubs benefit so much from HFA.
Comment posted byDepon September 3, 2008 at 1:40 pm (#828491)
AHHHHH!
remember last week danny? we were talking about the “R”
its “riters”
that’s fuckin hysterical
Comment posted byDepon September 3, 2008 at 1:40 pm (#828492)
oh, maybe its not riters, that was just brought up by the questioner, oh well. funny either way! lol
Comment posted byDepon September 3, 2008 at 1:41 pm (#828493)
dep,
unfortunately, that’s the not stat
yours,
rogah
SUKITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
Comment posted bymookie03on September 3, 2008 at 1:41 pm (#828494)
Sabathia. If there was one award for both leagues, fine, but there isn’t, so let’s stop being ridiculous.
haha, i like KLaw
Comment posted byDannyon September 3, 2008 at 1:41 pm (#828495)
Dep, isn’t he saying it’s NOT “Riters” and that it is an inside joke?
I like Kellerman’s nickname of “Write-tards”
Comment posted byDepon September 3, 2008 at 1:41 pm (#828496)
Matt: Keith - Am I nitpicking, or would # of pitches thrown be a better indication of a pitcher’s workload for a season rather than innings pitched?
SportsNation Keith Law: (1:34 PM ET ) You are not nitpicking.
Comment posted byDepon September 3, 2008 at 1:42 pm (#828497)
mike (NJ): Love your work Keith. Fernando Martinez and Jon Niese or Michael Taylor and Carlos Carrasco, who’d you rather have??
SportsNation Keith Law: (1:35 PM ET ) The Mets’ guys, easily.
Comment posted byDepon September 3, 2008 at 1:42 pm (#828498)
yeadanny, my bad, i misread it.
Comment posted byDannyon September 3, 2008 at 1:42 pm (#828499)
oh, maybe its not riters, that was just brought up by the questioner, oh well. funny either way! lol
hahaha
It is. I think we were right before!
Comment posted byDepon September 3, 2008 at 1:42 pm (#828500)
John - Philadelphia: Hey Klaw, Thoughts on Jon Niese’s debut last night. Results were pretty rough but that curve looked good at times. Where does he fit in the future?
SportsNation Keith Law: (1:35 PM ET ) Four-pitch LHP with a potentially plus-plus curveball. I’d have to say #3 starter with a chance to be a #2 if his command really comes along. He looked like a nervous wreck last night, though.
Comment posted byDepon September 3, 2008 at 1:42 pm (#828501)
ete (laurel md): Hey KLAW, do you think Carlos Beltran should get some MVP love. If he has a big september who could finish .280 BA, .380 OBP 25+ hrs 110+ rbi 30 sbs 40 doubles all while playing the best defensive center field in the majors. Your thoughts?
SportsNation Keith Law: (1:36 PM ET ) There’s no way his defense is good enough to close the gap on Pujols. If Pujols doesn’t win, there should be an investigation.
Comment posted byDannyon September 3, 2008 at 1:43 pm (#828502)
mike (NJ): Love your work Keith. Fernando Martinez and Jon Niese or Michael Taylor and Carlos Carrasco, who’d you rather have??
SportsNation Keith Law: (1:35 PM ET ) The Mets’ guys, easily.
LOL
sanity!
Comment posted byRamonon September 3, 2008 at 1:43 pm (#828503)
Classy…..
Carlos Delgado might have deserved a tip after his two-run home run in the eighth inning Monday gave the Mets a lead that led to a 4-2 victory. It didn’t work that way. When Brian Stokes, Carlos Muniz and Pedro Feliciano asked for their check at the Capital Grille here Monday night, they were told that the Mets first baseman had paid it.
Comment posted byDepon September 3, 2008 at 1:43 pm (#828504)
Josh (NY): Keith, why no love for Jose Reyes for MVP? If you look at the national league, he’s #1 in VORP on teams that would be considered contenders.
SportsNation Keith Law: (1:42 PM ET ) Because value isn’t limited to contending teams.
Comment posted byKneel Before Zod!on September 3, 2008 at 1:43 pm (#828505)
Matt: Keith - Am I nitpicking, or would # of pitches thrown be a better indication of a pitcher’s workload for a season rather than innings pitched?
30 INNINGS OR BUST
Comment posted byDepon September 3, 2008 at 1:44 pm (#828506)
brb
Comment posted byKneel Before Zod!on September 3, 2008 at 1:45 pm (#828507)
If Pujols doesn’t win, there should be an investigation.
::starts investigation::
Comment posted byLunkwill Fookon September 3, 2008 at 1:46 pm (#828508)
Everyone knew Zambrano would collapse eventually. Bad thing for the Cubs that it’s now.
Comment posted byDannyon September 3, 2008 at 1:46 pm (#828509)
If Godley wins the MVP, I’m setting something on fire. I haven’t determined my target yet.
Jayson Stark’s house comes to mind.
Comment posted byDannyon September 3, 2008 at 1:46 pm (#828510)
I don’t feel bad for the Cubs. Welcome to the injury train.
Comment posted byRamonon September 3, 2008 at 1:47 pm (#828511)
The Cubs are looking a little bit like the 2006 Mets right now. Everything has been easy and magical, but injuries and other clubs are creeping in during the second half to mess stuff up for them.
Comment posted byLunkwill Fookon September 3, 2008 at 1:47 pm (#828512)
Unless Utley has an insane September, he has no business being MVP. That caught stealing at home is my punctuation mark.
Comment posted byDepon September 3, 2008 at 1:48 pm (#828513)
Jerry Manuel on moving Luis Castillo down to the No. 7-hole. “I kinda want to bunch those six hitters together right now,” Manuel said of his big four, Murphy and Church. … I’ve told you guys this for the last week — Manuel really loves Dan Murphy. Today, when discussing Murphy’s understanding of hitting, Manuel went so far as to compare him to the great Roberto Alomar. Manuel said Alomar used to use at-bats early in games to setup pitchers. He believes Murphy may be good enough one day to do that. … High praise, indeed.
— Luis Ayala, who appeared to favor his groin during the 10th last night, is available today. Manuel is not overly concerned about Ayala’s injury because his velocity has remained consistent.
— Sounds like Manuel were prefer to give Brian Stokes the game off.
— Manuel won’t say how long he plans to ride four starters. He hasn’t thought about pitchers past the upcoming series with Philly.
— Pedro is still planned to start Saturday. Manuel hasn’t thought about sending Johan Santana out Saturday instead, even though he would be on full rest. … I’m just speculating as to why, but Cole Hamels, who threw a shutout last night, will likely pitch Sunday. Hamels, who has dealt with several injuries already in his career, seems a little resistant to it, but Charlie Manuel is considering reshuffling the rotation.
“I want to put Hamels on the Mets,” Charlie Manuel told MLB.com. “That’s a two-game swing, and this time of the year, we need to win some of those games in New York. We’ll talk to him and see how he feels. We’ll talk to the trainer and see where we’re at.”
Comment posted byDannyon September 3, 2008 at 1:49 pm (#828514)
The Cubs are looking a little bit like the 2006 Mets right now. Everything has been easy and magical, but injuries and other clubs are creeping in during the second half to mess stuff up for them.
You know, I think this is a pretty apples to apples comparison. Well played.
Comment posted byDepon September 3, 2008 at 1:49 pm (#828515)
oh sweet. BK Clones game on SNY tomorrow night
WILMER FOR ALL
Comment posted byRamonon September 3, 2008 at 1:50 pm (#828516)
I love that Jerry loves Daniel. He appreciates young talent and isn’t skeptical when they produce.
Comment posted byDannyon September 3, 2008 at 1:50 pm (#828517)
oh sweet. BK Clones game on SNY tomorrow night
WILMER FOR ALL
NICE
Comment posted byDepon September 3, 2008 at 1:50 pm (#828518)
Lets see the cubs lose their 2 best starters for the playoffs, then we’ll see how they do.
they havent lost anybody yet for any key time.
i reject they’re like the 2006 mets, at least not yet.
Comment posted byDannyon September 3, 2008 at 1:50 pm (#828519)
Daniel Murphy is no Ted Williams, guys.
Comment posted byKneel Before Zod!on September 3, 2008 at 1:50 pm (#828520)
oh sweet. BK Clones game on SNY tomorrow night
WILMER FOR ALL
for once, i am excited. is fernando there too?
Comment posted byDepon September 3, 2008 at 1:51 pm (#828522)
naw no F!
I have some pics of Wilmer in his Clones uniform. i can post later. he’s getting big!
brb again
Comment posted byDannyon September 3, 2008 at 1:51 pm (#828523)
The Mets were pretty healthy until towards the end of the year, and now their staff seems to be falling apart at the end, kind of like the 2006 Mets.
It’s not comparable yet but it seems to be moving that way if Zambrano goes down and they are hiding something about Harden.
Comment posted byRamonon September 3, 2008 at 1:53 pm (#828524)
Daniel Murphy is no Ted Williams, guys.
But according to Jerry he could be a Roberto Alomar at the plate! I will buy that for a dollar! :)
Comment posted bymookie03on September 3, 2008 at 1:53 pm (#828525)
oh sweet. BK Clones game on SNY tomorrow night
Care to wager some vodka on Ike, dep? :)
Comment posted byDannyon September 3, 2008 at 1:53 pm (#828526)
I was channeling my inner Willie, Ramon.
Comment posted byRamonon September 3, 2008 at 1:54 pm (#828527)
The Mets were pretty healthy until towards the end of the year, and now their staff seems to be falling apart at the end, kind of like the 2006 Mets.
It’s not comparable yet but it seems to be moving that way if Zambrano goes down and they are hiding something about Harden.
They also have the best record in the league like we did in 2006, a boatload of allstars like we had in 2006, were media darlings with a manager who came in and turned the franchise around in his second season, etc….
Comment posted bysweetlewon September 3, 2008 at 1:54 pm (#828528)
If Pujols doesn’t win, its because he is a royal jackass and people don’t like him.
Fixed. Although that never hurt Bonds
Comment posted byRamonon September 3, 2008 at 1:55 pm (#828529)
I was channeling my inner Willie, Ramon.
I know….it was funny too. I just like comparing Daniel to Alomar…some have compared him to Boggs…
I get excited about his potential at the plate.
Comment posted byDannyon September 3, 2008 at 1:57 pm (#828530)
I gotta say, I kind of see the Boggs thing with Murphy. He could hit .340 at Fenway with his natural opposite field stroke. He would pepper that wall.
Comment posted byRamonon September 3, 2008 at 1:59 pm (#828531)
The Daniel-Boggs comp also works in that both players seem to be hitters without set positions. Just like Boggs bounced around in the corner infeild and outfeild to find him a position to get tons of hits so to does Daniel seem to be in a similar position.
Comment posted bysweetlewon September 3, 2008 at 2:02 pm (#828532)
The fact that the kid has about a 1:1 BB:K ratio in his first 75 ML ABs is freaking awesome!
Most young guys struggle with strikeouts when they first hit the ML.
I will be so pissed if Omar doesn’t have him penned in to start in LF or 2b next year.
Comment posted byDepon September 3, 2008 at 2:03 pm (#828533)
Care to wager some vodka on Ike, dep? :)
LOL. i thought that was a running bet!
you’re on!
Comment posted byDannyon September 3, 2008 at 2:03 pm (#828534)
Yeah, Murphy’s plate discipline if off the charts. I don’t really see any significant power potential but who cares. The guy can flat hit.
Comment posted byLunkwill Fookon September 3, 2008 at 2:04 pm (#828536)
Comment posted bymookie03on September 3, 2008 at 2:05 pm (#828540)
LOL. i thought that was a running bet!
well, it is, but i haven’t been following him very carefully. And he didn’t play when i was there :(
Comment posted byRamonon September 3, 2008 at 2:06 pm (#828541)
I will be so pissed if Omar doesn’t have him penned in to start in LF or 2b next year.
Me too. I don’t want him to change a thing. Drawing out walks after long abs, working the pitcher, getting on base and producing decent linedrive power are all welcomed additions to this offense.
Comment posted byDepon September 3, 2008 at 2:06 pm (#828542)
game thread time!
c u there!
Comment posted byDepon September 3, 2008 at 2:06 pm (#828543)
well, it is, but i haven’t been following him very carefully. And he didn’t play when i was there :(
hahah, you haven’t missed much. he’s done a tad better lately, but still very underwhelming overall. i dont know his k/bb ratio though
tomorrow night i shall watch carefully ;)
Comment posted byRamonon September 3, 2008 at 2:07 pm (#828546)
he’s gonna be a star
I also believe this too, Dep. I am happy someone flat out said it because I thought I was being too optimistic. You can just tell by his approach, plate discipline and smooth stroke that he can be a very special hitter that could challenge for a BA title someday.
If Zambrano is hurt that puts alot of pressure on Harden to pitch deep into games, which he doesn’t do.
haha, i knew about zambrano, but i didnt know this.
PANIC
2009 Top 60 for draft
may be insider
With the abuse he has on that arm, who would ever guess Zambrano would fall apart?
That contract will look very bad in 2 years.
90 wins is within reach.
Wordalicious!
not in innings 7-9!
Law is so reasonable about Mets prospects. Me likey.
We’ve been rectifying this lately, no!
MARKET CORRECTION
tru dat homey. hope to see it going like that
dep,
unfortunately, that’s the not stat
yours,
rogah
I thought it was interesting that a scout linkened Holt to Maine in terms of stuff and potential….
if big z is out for any extended period of time, the cubs offense takes a bit of a hit. Then again, johan’s bat hasn’t be anywhere near as good as i expected.
seriously though, the cubs benefit so much from HFA.
AHHHHH!
remember last week danny? we were talking about the “R”
its “riters”
that’s fuckin hysterical
oh, maybe its not riters, that was just brought up by the questioner, oh well. funny either way! lol
SUKITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
haha, i like KLaw
Dep, isn’t he saying it’s NOT “Riters” and that it is an inside joke?
I like Kellerman’s nickname of “Write-tards”
mike (NJ): Love your work Keith. Fernando Martinez and Jon Niese or Michael Taylor and Carlos Carrasco, who’d you rather have??
SportsNation Keith Law: (1:35 PM ET ) The Mets’ guys, easily.
yeadanny, my bad, i misread it.
hahaha
It is. I think we were right before!
LOL
sanity!
Classy…..
30 INNINGS OR BUST
brb
::starts investigation::
Everyone knew Zambrano would collapse eventually. Bad thing for the Cubs that it’s now.
If Godley wins the MVP, I’m setting something on fire. I haven’t determined my target yet.
Jayson Stark’s house comes to mind.
I don’t feel bad for the Cubs. Welcome to the injury train.
The Cubs are looking a little bit like the 2006 Mets right now. Everything has been easy and magical, but injuries and other clubs are creeping in during the second half to mess stuff up for them.
Unless Utley has an insane September, he has no business being MVP. That caught stealing at home is my punctuation mark.
You know, I think this is a pretty apples to apples comparison. Well played.
oh sweet. BK Clones game on SNY tomorrow night
WILMER FOR ALL
I love that Jerry loves Daniel. He appreciates young talent and isn’t skeptical when they produce.
NICE
Lets see the cubs lose their 2 best starters for the playoffs, then we’ll see how they do.
they havent lost anybody yet for any key time.
i reject they’re like the 2006 mets, at least not yet.
Daniel Murphy is no Ted Williams, guys.
for once, i am excited. is fernando there too?
naw no F!
I have some pics of Wilmer in his Clones uniform. i can post later. he’s getting big!
brb again
The Mets were pretty healthy until towards the end of the year, and now their staff seems to be falling apart at the end, kind of like the 2006 Mets.
It’s not comparable yet but it seems to be moving that way if Zambrano goes down and they are hiding something about Harden.
But according to Jerry he could be a Roberto Alomar at the plate! I will buy that for a dollar! :)
Care to wager some vodka on Ike, dep? :)
I was channeling my inner Willie, Ramon.
They also have the best record in the league like we did in 2006, a boatload of allstars like we had in 2006, were media darlings with a manager who came in and turned the franchise around in his second season, etc….
Fixed. Although that never hurt Bonds
I know….it was funny too. I just like comparing Daniel to Alomar…some have compared him to Boggs…
I get excited about his potential at the plate.
I gotta say, I kind of see the Boggs thing with Murphy. He could hit .340 at Fenway with his natural opposite field stroke. He would pepper that wall.
The Daniel-Boggs comp also works in that both players seem to be hitters without set positions. Just like Boggs bounced around in the corner infeild and outfeild to find him a position to get tons of hits so to does Daniel seem to be in a similar position.
The fact that the kid has about a 1:1 BB:K ratio in his first 75 ML ABs is freaking awesome!
Most young guys struggle with strikeouts when they first hit the ML.
I will be so pissed if Omar doesn’t have him penned in to start in LF or 2b next year.
LOL. i thought that was a running bet!
you’re on!
Yeah, Murphy’s plate discipline if off the charts. I don’t really see any significant power potential but who cares. The guy can flat hit.
This is why you should NEVER PROPOSE AT A GAME.
murphy is truly the tits
he’s gonna be a star
Leader
Nice job by Delgado there.
well, it is, but i haven’t been following him very carefully. And he didn’t play when i was there :(
Me too. I don’t want him to change a thing. Drawing out walks after long abs, working the pitcher, getting on base and producing decent linedrive power are all welcomed additions to this offense.
game thread time!
c u there!
hahah, you haven’t missed much. he’s done a tad better lately, but still very underwhelming overall. i dont know his k/bb ratio though
tomorrow night i shall watch carefully ;)
I also believe this too, Dep. I am happy someone flat out said it because I thought I was being too optimistic. You can just tell by his approach, plate discipline and smooth stroke that he can be a very special hitter that could challenge for a BA title someday.
lol
Let me send you my wife’s card.
Somewhere, Willie is looking up at trees.