Comment posted byDepon July 5, 2008 at 1:59 pm (#750369)
what was especially depressing was the phils reaction after the win.
i fear we’ve fed the beast even more.
Comment posted byNjMFon July 5, 2008 at 2:00 pm (#750370)
I agree Shea.
I love Beltran. His glove is TREMENDOUS and when he hits he is awesome.
Its when he doesnt hit, like when it counts, with 2 outs and RISP or with RISP..
Sorry Zod. No hard feelings.
And no cracks about Beltrans tremendous glove ;D
Comment posted byDoc believes!on July 5, 2008 at 2:02 pm (#750371)
That stadium erupted last night after Victorino hit. The foul mouth fuckers were into it.
Comment posted bysheadenizenon July 5, 2008 at 2:05 pm (#750372)
Yes, I agree about beltran’s glove. I wouldn’t want to give that up.
I thought of you last night Doc knowing you were there. I’m sure it was ugly. And yes, we fed the beast. It could get ugly!
Comment posted byDepon July 5, 2008 at 2:13 pm (#750373)
ahhhhhh, you were there Doc? now i get it.
damn yo, that sucks, that makes it even crappier!
Comment posted byBob Loblawon July 5, 2008 at 2:50 pm (#750376)
I’m still a Beltran fan. However, I think it’s time to put him in the 2 hole for a bit. That seems to be where he’s happiest.
Reyes
Beltran
Wright
Church
Easley
Delgado
Castro
Endy
Comment posted byDoc believes!on July 5, 2008 at 2:58 pm (#750378)
ahhhhhh, you were there Doc? now i get it.
damn yo, that sucks, that makes it even crappier!
Yep, Deppy.
Comment posted byDoc believes!on July 5, 2008 at 2:59 pm (#750379)
Beltran has the numbers of a 4 hitter but the approach of a 2 hitter. I wouldn’t mind him batting 2.
Comment posted bysheadenizenon July 5, 2008 at 3:00 pm (#750380)
I’ve been asking to get him out of the clean up spot for awhile now. It’s not where he belongs and I truly believe he’s not comfortable there.
Comment posted byDoc believes!on July 5, 2008 at 3:02 pm (#750381)
The problem is the Mets don’t have anyone who is suited to bat fourth. I’m not a fan of the DW their either and with Delgado decline he can’t hit there.
Comment posted bybcusteron July 5, 2008 at 3:03 pm (#750382)
i have been in davey wright country for days (computerless). any interesting trade rumors?
Comment posted bysheadenizenon July 5, 2008 at 3:09 pm (#750384)
No custer. Nothing!
Doc, I agree we don’t have a clean up hitter, but I honesly would rather see Church there than Beltran. Clean up hitters don’t come up with men on base thinking bunt. Sorry! But that’s just me.
Comment posted byDepon July 5, 2008 at 3:10 pm (#750385)
I like Bob’s lineup
i doubt we’ll see it though!
Comment posted bybcusteron July 5, 2008 at 3:22 pm (#750387)
well, as much as i enjoy interleague play vs the you-know-who’s, this game here tonight has much more significance for our ‘08 hopes. we just cannot let philthes regain the upper-hand, just cannot
oh and p.s. i despise saturday night games..
Comment posted bysheadenizenon July 5, 2008 at 3:28 pm (#750388)
We won’t see it dep. You’re right. Too bad.
And if Mr. Maine insists on giving up 3 runs in the first, we’re screwed.
The Mets must be desperate for 2nd base help in the the near future if they are planning on trying Dan Murphy at 2nd. I am interested in seeing if he can handle the position competantly, because if he does he seems to have enough of a bat to stick there.
Comment posted byDoc believes!on July 5, 2008 at 4:02 pm (#750392)
If Kelly Johnson can do it why not Murphy.
Comment posted byDoc believes!on July 5, 2008 at 4:10 pm (#750393)
Comment posted bymetswin2008on July 5, 2008 at 4:27 pm (#750394)
Murphy playing second doesnt sound too bad. Hes young enough, so maybe he can pick it up quick. If the kid wants to make it im sure he will bust his butt learning the position
Comment posted bymetswin2008on July 5, 2008 at 4:34 pm (#750395)
Good to see the farm isnt all that bad as some would think
Comment posted byLunkwill Fookon July 5, 2008 at 4:40 pm (#750396)
Does Rollins even realize Jose is as good as he is already?
Comment posted bymetswin2008on July 5, 2008 at 4:47 pm (#750397)
Ha, yea I love the denial he is in. Oh, Jose is what I was when I sucked. Gee, Mr Rollins thanks for the vote of confidence, I hope you go 0-13 and continue to be better than Jose
Comment posted byDoc believes!on July 5, 2008 at 4:47 pm (#750398)
Material Boy grazed by a pitch to load the bases.
Comment posted byLunkwill Fookon July 5, 2008 at 4:48 pm (#750399)
By the way, Jose’s “horrible” season last year was as good as almost any season Rollins has had, save his MVP season.
Comment posted bysheadenizenon July 5, 2008 at 4:49 pm (#750400)
Does Rollins even realize Jose is as good as he is already?
Somehow I don’t see that as the issue. Nobody wants to give Rollins credit for anything. We certainly are “met”rocentric…aren’t we? Like my word?
Comment posted bymetswin2008on July 5, 2008 at 4:51 pm (#750401)
“met”rocentric
When I look that up in the dictionary will I see a picture of Mr Mets big head? lol
Comment posted bysheadenizenon July 5, 2008 at 4:52 pm (#750402)
I didn’t read the article that way at all. People always refuse to give any credit where credit is due to another team’s player. It had nothing to do with who was better. It had everything to do with learning to grow up.
Comment posted bysheadenizenon July 5, 2008 at 4:52 pm (#750403)
you will indeed, 2008….lol!
Comment posted byLunkwill Fookon July 5, 2008 at 4:56 pm (#750404)
Shea, the problem I have is why Jose has to “grow” into Jimm Rollins. Rollins was a disappoint up until he started hitting for legit power in 2006. At the same time, Jose was already having a better season than any Rollins has except for the 2007 MVP season. The only reason Jose has to “look up” to Rollins is because the voters decided his MVP type season was more worthy for the award than Jose’s the year before.
And, having lived in Philly for years during Rollins development, I called bullsh## on his “I’ve gone through what Jose is”. Rollins NEVER went through this kind of media scrutiny. Rollins was never called the scapegoat, the crowds were never on him. You know who actually knows how Jose feels? Pat Burrell. He was the Philadelphia whipping boy for all those years of underachievement.
That’s why I call BS on Rollins. I’m not saying he’s not an above average player. But to think he has some sort of insight on Jose who is both a better player than he is PLUS is under more media scrutiny than anything Rollins went through…. it’s pure “I’m an adult” BS.
Comment posted bysheadenizenon July 5, 2008 at 5:10 pm (#750405)
Lunk, you’re hate for Rollins is blinding you. Stop. Shipgel is not saying Reyes has to grow into and become Rollins. He’s saying Reyes will be fine. His premise is that some players go through some hard times times and mature slower. That’s all this is about. You’re making it into something it isn’t….
Comment posted bymetswin2008on July 5, 2008 at 5:14 pm (#750406)
I just wanna see the Keith Hernandez-Jose Reyes celebrity death match. Im going with Keith. Hes an 11 time gold glover with 2 rings, but the biggest thing he won was being smoke free. I think this is why he wins ;-)
Comment posted bymetswin2008on July 5, 2008 at 5:16 pm (#750407)
Im “met”rocentric. I admit it. I do not deny this. I hate all that is not blue and orange. Shoot, from playing the Cards I now hate white people. lol
Comment posted bysheadenizenon July 5, 2008 at 5:17 pm (#750408)
LOL, 2008!
Comment posted byLunkwill Fookon July 5, 2008 at 5:19 pm (#750409)
Shea, I think you’re misunderstanding me entirely. What I’m getting it is that the comparison between Jose and Rollins’ maturity processes and going through the fans and media tearing into them is bunk. Rollins never went through that. And the writer comparing Rollins and Jose is suggesting that. What I’m suggesting is, if you want to make a comparison of sluggers that went through tons of media hate to progress into great hitters, Burrell is BY FAR the better choice. Rollins was essentially bulletproof throughout his maturation process. In fact, when the Phillies were consistently underachieving, the media would ALWAYS give the caveat that at least Rollins was giving it his all.
Comment posted byLunkwill Fookon July 5, 2008 at 5:31 pm (#750410)
And, no, I don’t harbor a specific hatred for Rollins. It’s a general Phillies hatred. But I give credit where credit is due and Burrell is was the scapegoat and he’s certainly pushed through it.
Comment posted bysheadenizenon July 5, 2008 at 5:34 pm (#750411)
I get what you’re saying Lunk. I didn’t live in Philly ( I know you did) so I’ll bow to your knowledege. My point simply was that Shipgel seems to be one of the few writers who gets that Jose will be fine and all of this will pass. I think that’s the most important aspect of the piece. The rest is puff imo.
Comment posted byLunkwill Fookon July 5, 2008 at 5:38 pm (#750412)
Definitely, I appreciate the point Jose will work through it. Like I said, I don’t like the artificial touting Rollins gets when there’s a member on his team that continues to get a complete lack of respect (BTW, the Phillies best hitter this year is Burrell, not Utley).
Comment posted bysheadenizenon July 5, 2008 at 5:38 pm (#750413)
Now that we’re friends again, can i ask you a computer question….lol. When my monitor comes on the last few days, it flickers until it finally stays on…..maybe 2 minutes or so. My computer is fine. Is it time for a new monitor? it’s a MAG LCD and about 6 or 7 years old, I think.
Comment posted byLunkwill Fookon July 5, 2008 at 5:40 pm (#750414)
I was about to ask if it was a tube monitor (old style) because that’s what the problem sounded like but when you said LCD….. Sounds like there’s some wiring bad mojo going on in the monitor. Honestly, it could do that for ten years or it might stop working tomorrow. Safest to get a new monitor.
And you know, no matter how much we argue, we’re still friends. METS FANS FO LYFE!!!!
Comment posted bysheadenizenon July 5, 2008 at 5:42 pm (#750415)
Thanks, Lunk. I know we’ll always be friends. I wasn’t worried in the least ;-)
Comment posted byLunkwill Fookon July 5, 2008 at 5:44 pm (#750416)
Not always! If you manage to convince Lorraine to leave me for some young hunk, I might have to reevaluate. :)
Comment posted bysheadenizenon July 5, 2008 at 5:49 pm (#750418)
hahaha, lunk. Never!
Comment posted byPHLon July 5, 2008 at 6:00 pm (#750419)
The LCD backlight will start to give out after 5-6 years of moderate to heavy use.
Comment posted byLunkwill Fookon July 5, 2008 at 6:01 pm (#750420)
PHL, could be shorter. She’s got an older monitor if it’s 7 years old.
Comment posted byLunkwill Fookon July 5, 2008 at 6:05 pm (#750421)
Plus, I had a MAG LCD at one point. It wasn’t long for this world.
Comment posted bysheadenizenon July 5, 2008 at 6:09 pm (#750422)
Thanks guys. I’ll go get a new one tomorrow.
Comment posted bysheadenizenon July 5, 2008 at 6:14 pm (#750424)
As a matter of fact, I’ll order one now and pick it up tmorrow.
Comment posted byLunkwill Fookon July 5, 2008 at 6:19 pm (#750425)
Now that’s taking care of business!
Comment posted bymetswin2008on July 5, 2008 at 8:07 pm (#750476)
I hate the fucking Phillies and I think they hate me too
what was especially depressing was the phils reaction after the win.
i fear we’ve fed the beast even more.
I agree Shea.
I love Beltran. His glove is TREMENDOUS and when he hits he is awesome.
Its when he doesnt hit, like when it counts, with 2 outs and RISP or with RISP..
Sorry Zod. No hard feelings.
And no cracks about Beltrans tremendous glove ;D
That stadium erupted last night after Victorino hit. The foul mouth fuckers were into it.
Yes, I agree about beltran’s glove. I wouldn’t want to give that up.
I thought of you last night Doc knowing you were there. I’m sure it was ugly. And yes, we fed the beast. It could get ugly!
ahhhhhh, you were there Doc? now i get it.
damn yo, that sucks, that makes it even crappier!
I’m still a Beltran fan. However, I think it’s time to put him in the 2 hole for a bit. That seems to be where he’s happiest.
Reyes
Beltran
Wright
Church
Easley
Delgado
Castro
Endy
Yep, Deppy.
Beltran has the numbers of a 4 hitter but the approach of a 2 hitter. I wouldn’t mind him batting 2.
I’ve been asking to get him out of the clean up spot for awhile now. It’s not where he belongs and I truly believe he’s not comfortable there.
The problem is the Mets don’t have anyone who is suited to bat fourth. I’m not a fan of the DW their either and with Delgado decline he can’t hit there.
i have been in davey wright country for days (computerless). any interesting trade rumors?
No custer. Nothing!
Doc, I agree we don’t have a clean up hitter, but I honesly would rather see Church there than Beltran. Clean up hitters don’t come up with men on base thinking bunt. Sorry! But that’s just me.
I like Bob’s lineup
i doubt we’ll see it though!
well, as much as i enjoy interleague play vs the you-know-who’s, this game here tonight has much more significance for our ‘08 hopes. we just cannot let philthes regain the upper-hand, just cannot
oh and p.s. i despise saturday night games..
We won’t see it dep. You’re right. Too bad.
And if Mr. Maine insists on giving up 3 runs in the first, we’re screwed.
Bob’s lineup is pretty sweet actually.
The Mets must be desperate for 2nd base help in the the near future if they are planning on trying Dan Murphy at 2nd. I am interested in seeing if he can handle the position competantly, because if he does he seems to have enough of a bat to stick there.
If Kelly Johnson can do it why not Murphy.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/06/sports/baseball/06reyes.html
Murphy playing second doesnt sound too bad. Hes young enough, so maybe he can pick it up quick. If the kid wants to make it im sure he will bust his butt learning the position
http://bmets.com/viewarticle.asp?a=1468
Good to see the farm isnt all that bad as some would think
Does Rollins even realize Jose is as good as he is already?
Ha, yea I love the denial he is in. Oh, Jose is what I was when I sucked. Gee, Mr Rollins thanks for the vote of confidence, I hope you go 0-13 and continue to be better than Jose
Material Boy grazed by a pitch to load the bases.
By the way, Jose’s “horrible” season last year was as good as almost any season Rollins has had, save his MVP season.
Somehow I don’t see that as the issue. Nobody wants to give Rollins credit for anything. We certainly are “met”rocentric…aren’t we? Like my word?
When I look that up in the dictionary will I see a picture of Mr Mets big head? lol
I didn’t read the article that way at all. People always refuse to give any credit where credit is due to another team’s player. It had nothing to do with who was better. It had everything to do with learning to grow up.
you will indeed, 2008….lol!
Shea, the problem I have is why Jose has to “grow” into Jimm Rollins. Rollins was a disappoint up until he started hitting for legit power in 2006. At the same time, Jose was already having a better season than any Rollins has except for the 2007 MVP season. The only reason Jose has to “look up” to Rollins is because the voters decided his MVP type season was more worthy for the award than Jose’s the year before.
And, having lived in Philly for years during Rollins development, I called bullsh## on his “I’ve gone through what Jose is”. Rollins NEVER went through this kind of media scrutiny. Rollins was never called the scapegoat, the crowds were never on him. You know who actually knows how Jose feels? Pat Burrell. He was the Philadelphia whipping boy for all those years of underachievement.
That’s why I call BS on Rollins. I’m not saying he’s not an above average player. But to think he has some sort of insight on Jose who is both a better player than he is PLUS is under more media scrutiny than anything Rollins went through…. it’s pure “I’m an adult” BS.
Lunk, you’re hate for Rollins is blinding you. Stop. Shipgel is not saying Reyes has to grow into and become Rollins. He’s saying Reyes will be fine. His premise is that some players go through some hard times times and mature slower. That’s all this is about. You’re making it into something it isn’t….
I just wanna see the Keith Hernandez-Jose Reyes celebrity death match. Im going with Keith. Hes an 11 time gold glover with 2 rings, but the biggest thing he won was being smoke free. I think this is why he wins ;-)
Im “met”rocentric. I admit it. I do not deny this. I hate all that is not blue and orange. Shoot, from playing the Cards I now hate white people. lol
LOL, 2008!
Shea, I think you’re misunderstanding me entirely. What I’m getting it is that the comparison between Jose and Rollins’ maturity processes and going through the fans and media tearing into them is bunk. Rollins never went through that. And the writer comparing Rollins and Jose is suggesting that. What I’m suggesting is, if you want to make a comparison of sluggers that went through tons of media hate to progress into great hitters, Burrell is BY FAR the better choice. Rollins was essentially bulletproof throughout his maturation process. In fact, when the Phillies were consistently underachieving, the media would ALWAYS give the caveat that at least Rollins was giving it his all.
And, no, I don’t harbor a specific hatred for Rollins. It’s a general Phillies hatred. But I give credit where credit is due and Burrell is was the scapegoat and he’s certainly pushed through it.
I get what you’re saying Lunk. I didn’t live in Philly ( I know you did) so I’ll bow to your knowledege. My point simply was that Shipgel seems to be one of the few writers who gets that Jose will be fine and all of this will pass. I think that’s the most important aspect of the piece. The rest is puff imo.
Definitely, I appreciate the point Jose will work through it. Like I said, I don’t like the artificial touting Rollins gets when there’s a member on his team that continues to get a complete lack of respect (BTW, the Phillies best hitter this year is Burrell, not Utley).
Now that we’re friends again, can i ask you a computer question….lol. When my monitor comes on the last few days, it flickers until it finally stays on…..maybe 2 minutes or so. My computer is fine. Is it time for a new monitor? it’s a MAG LCD and about 6 or 7 years old, I think.
I was about to ask if it was a tube monitor (old style) because that’s what the problem sounded like but when you said LCD….. Sounds like there’s some wiring bad mojo going on in the monitor. Honestly, it could do that for ten years or it might stop working tomorrow. Safest to get a new monitor.
And you know, no matter how much we argue, we’re still friends. METS FANS FO LYFE!!!!
Thanks, Lunk. I know we’ll always be friends. I wasn’t worried in the least ;-)
Not always! If you manage to convince Lorraine to leave me for some young hunk, I might have to reevaluate. :)
hahaha, lunk. Never!
The LCD backlight will start to give out after 5-6 years of moderate to heavy use.
PHL, could be shorter. She’s got an older monitor if it’s 7 years old.
Plus, I had a MAG LCD at one point. It wasn’t long for this world.
Thanks guys. I’ll go get a new one tomorrow.
As a matter of fact, I’ll order one now and pick it up tmorrow.
Now that’s taking care of business!
I hate the fucking Phillies and I think they hate me too