So do you have a conflict of interest when the Mets play the Cubs in the playoffs? Do you root for the Cubs to make your mom’s character happy or do you wish the Mets crush your fake movie brother’s arse???? Do tell.
Comment posted byLunkwill Fookon June 30, 2008 at 4:48 pm (#746026)
Sweet. Worst June on the stock market since the Depression. That’s good to know.
Comment posted byDannyon June 30, 2008 at 4:49 pm (#746028)
I wonder what would have happened with F!, say he was dominating AA and didnt get hurt.
LF was such a black hole…………
Omar is known to be crazy.
I think he takes the plunge.
I’m serial.
Comment posted byKneel Before Zod!on June 30, 2008 at 4:49 pm (#746029)
Do you root for the Cubs to make your mom’s character happy or do you wish the Mets crush your fake movie brother’s arse????
hahahahaha
Comment posted byDepon June 30, 2008 at 4:50 pm (#746030)
is F! our starting LF next year assuming no more injuries and he puts up a fab line at AA?
Comment posted byPHLon June 30, 2008 at 4:50 pm (#746031)
Well, it’s not a counting stat, so you do have to look at the game log to get a sense of his overall performance:
That was Delgado’s WPA in 2005 for the Marlins. That pwns the shit out of Burrell. IMAGINE if he had played for us that season??? Tony IS the Devil!!!!!
Comment posted byKneel Before Zod!on June 30, 2008 at 5:00 pm (#746056)
maine
peavy
garza
shields
pelfrey
carmona
bannister
wagner
soria
cordero
Comment posted byDepon June 30, 2008 at 5:00 pm (#746057)
ok ok 5pm. time for dep’s bosses to leave so i can.
I laugh anytime people get all hot n heavy over C-GOM or M-JAC and what they’re doing.
bad OBP is basically the worst thing in the world to have in baseball and they do that well.
Dep - I think a lot of fans, especially older fans, don’t look at OBP (or many of the “new” stats for that matter). They look at the stats shown on TV when the guy comes to the plate:
fangraphs is wonderful……not just for WPA but they have a ton of things on there
Comment posted byLunkwill Fookon June 30, 2008 at 5:04 pm (#746064)
I’m out guys. Later.
Comment posted byDepon June 30, 2008 at 5:04 pm (#746065)
Dep - I think a lot of fans, especially older fans, don’t look at OBP (or many of the “new” stats for that matter). They look at the stats shown on TV when the guy comes to the plate:
The Boston Red Sox and Tampa Bay Rays are spirited combatants on the field, and after the most recent Coco Crisp/James Shields donnybrook, tensions are running extremely high going into this series. But, this time around, the Sox have much more to worry about than a Scott Kazmir fastball to the ear hole.
According to the Boston Herald, an anonymous Memphis-based Sox hater has mailed several death threats to some of the “black and Latin players” on the Red Sox, which has team members seriously spooked.
Right now authorities are doing everything they can to keep the players safe — extra security has been called in and some players will get escorts to and from the stadium —but there’s been no progress in tracking down the author of the letters.
Hopefully all the white guys on the Red Sox don’t feel left out by the extra attention their teammates are getting. That would be bad for chemistry.
MC - why the ƒuck would someone order this jersey?
Yesterday, while leaving Shea Stadium, I saw a guy wearing a Scott Kazmir Mets jersey.
I stopped him and asked if he spent money on it prior to the trade, or after. Naturally, he ordered it online after the trade.
What’s interesting, though, is it was sent to him with a space between the Z and M in the last name.
Apparently, he said, the team will not ship out jerseys with No. 19 and the full last name of Kazmir on a Mets jersey.
…from what i can gather, this is their policy for any player who is not on the Mets, and has more to do with the league than the specific team…the thing is, i just can’t see how this is enforced…however, in a case like kazmir, which is so obvious, and such a notorious deal, it makes sense that it would be censored…
…i had never heard of such a scenario, and wonder if any other fans have gone through the same situation…
Comment posted byDannyon June 30, 2008 at 5:13 pm (#746070)
Dep, I can only find WARP for individual players on their individual Baseball Prospectus DT card. I would love to figure out a way to generate a report and sort all these guys in order.
Comment posted byDepon June 30, 2008 at 5:19 pm (#746071)
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, its on the DT cards! duh! thanks yo, i checked the PECOTA cards like 10x and never looked on those.
Yea, a ranking list would be grand. I actual saw someone ask that in a BP chat, and the guy said sortable lists are coming.
Comment posted byDepon June 30, 2008 at 5:20 pm (#746072)
ok, so WARP3 says Guzman doesnt belong on the same field as Reyes/Ramirez in terms of 2008 production, and WARP does include defense.
I like to have that AND win shares. it covers you moreso for crazy things one system may encounter.
The Red Sox are confident it wasn’t Manny just being Manny.
Manny Ramirez has apologized for pushing the team’s traveling secretary to the ground in the visitors clubhouse during a confrontation Saturday in Houston, according to a report in The Providence Journal.
Ramirez
Ramirez had requested 16 tickets from Jack McCormick for Saturday’s game against the Astros, the report said.
After McCormick said that might not be possible, Ramirez replied by yelling, “Just do your job,” according to Monday’s report.
Ramirez and McCormick later discussed the incident in a private meeting, during which the left fielder made amends.
“That’s over,” Ramirez said Sunday, according to the report. “We’re fine now.”
Boston manager Terry Francona said the team had resolved the matter and was “satisfied with how we handled this.”
“Sometimes things happen,” Francona said, according to The Journal. “And when they do, we choose to handle them internally.”
Said McCormick: “It was an unfortunate misunderstanding and it’s over with as far as I’m concerned.”
It wasn’t the first time this season Ramirez was forced to put a sour incident behind him.
Ramirez, who on May 31 became the 24th major leaguer to hit 500 home runs, had to be separated from first baseman Kevin Youkilis earlier this month after apparently taking a swing at him during a dugout argument.
“It’s in the past,” Ramirez said the next day. “It’s a new day.”
Comment posted byDepon June 30, 2008 at 5:23 pm (#746074)
Whoa whoa
WARP3 - 2008
Carlos Delgado 3.5
Mike Jacobs 2.6
(makes mental note to bring up WARP next time he hears Jacobs wahhhhh)
Comment posted byDannyon June 30, 2008 at 5:25 pm (#746075)
Yeah, the best thing to do is compare these guys across all of the systems and look for large discrepancies, and figure out what they might be.
Comment posted byPHLon June 30, 2008 at 5:26 pm (#746076)
WTF wants Jacobs? He’s not even Jewish. 8^P
Comment posted byDepon June 30, 2008 at 5:26 pm (#746077)
I’m wow’d by the .9 differential between delgado and jacobs.
i mean i know OBP is a huge factor, but wow! I honestly expected them to be close to tied with a slight edge to jacobs.
wrong i was!
Comment posted byDepon June 30, 2008 at 5:27 pm (#746078)
WTF wants Jacobs? He’s not even Jewish. 8^P
BWAHAHAHAHAHAH, despite what the marlins media materials say he is! ;)
You guys ready for a little ball tonight? It’s 85 degrees, breezy and sunny as a mofo…..
I’ve got the couch to myself, a 12 pack of Modelo, pork tenderloin in the weber…..
as long it isn’t 6 zip after 1 half everything is golden…
Comment posted byDepon June 30, 2008 at 5:37 pm (#746080)
I’m not sweating it, I got some sleep last night and it’s beautiful out. I just want a decent game….this is a win win for me cause if we lose, at least you guys are in a good mood, and If we win, I get a kick out of seeing some of you guys get all bent out of shape…
Which John Maine is showing up tonight…that will be the key.
Comment posted byDepon June 30, 2008 at 5:49 pm (#746083)
Hopefully the one that treats mid-westerners like they treat their sisters/wives.
Comment posted byDepon June 30, 2008 at 5:49 pm (#746084)
Comment posted byDepon June 30, 2008 at 5:57 pm (#746085)
Reyes (ss)
Castillo (2b)
Wright (3b)
Beltran (cf)
Delgado (1b)
Church (rf)
Chavez (lf)
Schneider (c)
Maine (rhp)
Comment posted byDepon June 30, 2008 at 5:58 pm (#746086)
note per delkoz
-Moises Alou’s rehab game in Florida was rained out. Manager Jerry Manuel said if Alou plays in two or three games then he has a good chance to be activated this weekend at Philly.
-Orlando Hernandez, on the DL with a right foot injury, is throwing off the mound in Florida.
-Angel Pagan, on the DL with a bruised left shoulder, could be facing season-ending surgery.
-Manuel said he will be looking to pull Carlos Delgado in favor of Fernando Tatis for defense.
Comment posted byDepon June 30, 2008 at 6:02 pm (#746087)
I am…………….. Gary Busey.
BTW, Xavier Nady’s WPA is 1.66. That’s 9th among OFs. Just sayin.
The Gary Busey arc on Entourage is hilarious
dode is just nuts!
you think zod would be talking to you loserz if my mom was THE MOM FROM ROOKIE OF THE YEAR!!!
fun fact: zod is henry rowengardner’s brown-haired friend that was also in Don’t Tell Mom The Babysitter’s Dead
hahaha
I challenged him on the MetsGeek interview thread. I was hoping he would come to here to read his thread a la Tom Tango and defend himself.
ƒ! is kicking a## and taking names. Seriously, if he can get to a .800 OPS as a 19 year old in AA…. That’s just hot.
lol danny, maybe we needed to call him a dick to get him to show up!
I wonder what would have happened with F!, say he was dominating AA and didnt get hurt.
LF was such a black hole…………
Omar is known to be crazy.
So do you have a conflict of interest when the Mets play the Cubs in the playoffs? Do you root for the Cubs to make your mom’s character happy or do you wish the Mets crush your fake movie brother’s arse???? Do tell.
Sweet. Worst June on the stock market since the Depression. That’s good to know.
I think he takes the plunge.
I’m serial.
hahahahaha
is F! our starting LF next year assuming no more injuries and he puts up a fab line at AA?
Well, it’s not a counting stat, so you do have to look at the game log to get a sense of his overall performance:
http://www.fangraphs.com/statsd.aspx?playerid=949&position=OF&season=
So sad that Juan Pierre has over a point higer WPA (0.38) than Delagdo does (-1.20).
Delgado is the perfect storm of suck for WPA.
A guy with declining skills/performance on a team that doesnt have the suitable parts to bat him lower in the order.
so his declining skills are still coming up in big spots with lots of guys on and his fails cost him LOTS.
so delgado gives us more than a 100% percent chance of losing?
so that’s what color your hair is.
good to know.
hahahaha, you’d need to put that 1.2 over some other number to get that kinda %.
He’s lost more than 1 game ALL BY HIMSELF lol
WPA makes my head hurt a little. no more looking at those!
a 20 yr old starter in left? Who hasn’t played a full season yet?
crikey.
I hope not.
LOL! The only 1stbaseman with a worse WPA than Delgado is Sexson. And there are people who want to trade for Sexy! LOL!
LOL i no get it
Noble has intimated as such on a couple of occasions.
That is Mike Jacob’s WPA. He hasn’t been so hot either.
Brian Bannister update
ERA+ 87
7-7 Record
Johan blames himself
intimate this, bra
wow.
you can only hide a .260 OBP so much!
great power, sucks at everything else. I dont miss him in the least!
brian has been pretty solid for my fantasy team
my pitching staff is nasty
not in geek league - i stopped doing that a while ago
The sad thing is that Delgado’s WPA last year was a very respectable 1.98 and in 2006 it was 3.24. Wow.
WE CRAAAAAAAZY! WE GONNA DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IT!
Yet people want to trade for him too.
If Marty Noble tries to get intimate with me, he getting punched in the nose.
thumbing through the Victoria’s Secret catalog again Zodder?
jesus. and i thought he was bad last year.
I love my yahoo pitching staff LOVE
Kazmir
Bedard
King Felix
Then I picked up Pettite and Lohse (cause I need to accumulate outs lol)
I laugh anytime people get all hot n heavy over C-GOM or M-JAC and what they’re doing.
bad OBP is basically the worst thing in the world to have in baseball and they do that well.
5.97
maine
peavy
garza
shields
pelfrey
carmona
bannister
wagner
soria
cordero
ok ok 5pm. time for dep’s bosses to leave so i can.
OHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
OHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
OHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
OHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
5.97 is downright nasty
in other words if u field a team thats completely average and one delgado in 2005 that team goes from 81-81 to 84-78
Dep - I think a lot of fans, especially older fans, don’t look at OBP (or many of the “new” stats for that matter). They look at the stats shown on TV when the guy comes to the plate:
AVG
HR
RBI
That’s it.
I love this fangraph shit. I don’t know why I have never used it before??
OBP is one of the more important stats tho
1.8OBP + SLG best correatles to runs scored
OBP IS THE STAT
OBP = LIFE
1-OBP = AMOUNT YOU SUCK
fangraphs is wonderful……not just for WPA but they have a ton of things on there
I’m out guys. Later.
yupyup, i hear ya on that.
I still giggle!
This is pretty fucked up:
Not even to mention the fact that Doug Mientkiewicz had a -0.15 WPA for us that season. Imagine the differential.
Find me 2008 WARP yo
I cannot find it!
MC - why the ƒuck would someone order this jersey?
Dep, I can only find WARP for individual players on their individual Baseball Prospectus DT card. I would love to figure out a way to generate a report and sort all these guys in order.
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, its on the DT cards! duh! thanks yo, i checked the PECOTA cards like 10x and never looked on those.
Yea, a ranking list would be grand. I actual saw someone ask that in a BP chat, and the guy said sortable lists are coming.
ok, so WARP3 says Guzman doesnt belong on the same field as Reyes/Ramirez in terms of 2008 production, and WARP does include defense.
I like to have that AND win shares. it covers you moreso for crazy things one system may encounter.
Whoa whoa
WARP3 - 2008
Carlos Delgado 3.5
Mike Jacobs 2.6
(makes mental note to bring up WARP next time he hears Jacobs wahhhhh)
Yeah, the best thing to do is compare these guys across all of the systems and look for large discrepancies, and figure out what they might be.
WTF wants Jacobs? He’s not even Jewish. 8^P
I’m wow’d by the .9 differential between delgado and jacobs.
i mean i know OBP is a huge factor, but wow! I honestly expected them to be close to tied with a slight edge to jacobs.
wrong i was!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAH, despite what the marlins media materials say he is! ;)
You guys ready for a little ball tonight? It’s 85 degrees, breezy and sunny as a mofo…..
I’ve got the couch to myself, a 12 pack of Modelo, pork tenderloin in the weber…..
as long it isn’t 6 zip after 1 half everything is golden…
this is hilarious
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/30/13301/7164/959/544171
oh boy timmy. oh boy.
its turning out badly for one of us!
I’m not sweating it, I got some sleep last night and it’s beautiful out. I just want a decent game….this is a win win for me cause if we lose, at least you guys are in a good mood, and If we win, I get a kick out of seeing some of you guys get all bent out of shape…
Which John Maine is showing up tonight…that will be the key.
Hopefully the one that treats mid-westerners like they treat their sisters/wives.
here timmy, you need this
http://donchavez.com/blog/index.php/2008/06/27/hot-or-not-21/
note per delkoz
Timmy! come back! i didnt mean it! :p
nice. and nniiiicccce.
i’ll even give you your lineup
Which Kyle Lohse will show up?
Sucky or Lucky?
IT’S ON BABY
had to put some more apple wood chips on the grill…and since I’m from the Midwest, I punched my wife in the spleen for not having done it for me…
hahaha, and she totally had it easy for 9-months!
NO BELLY SHOTS!
This whole meditating to make people leave shit just aint working today.
LEAVE!
LEAVE!
LEAVE!
ummm. I’ll take lucky.
We have been anything but lucky though, to tell ya the truth.
I don’t understand why Duncan keeps getting playing time….I really dislike him.
allo gang ,,,,,
hey timmmaaay !!!! ready for a beatdown tonight ???