Comment posted byDoctorK16on April 18, 2008 at 5:56 pm (#661413)
Isaiah ia also a pretty poor judge of character. Between Stephon Marbury, Zack Randolph, Steve Francis, and Eddie Curry–there’s enough evidence to show that he doesn’t really consider personal issues too often.
Thats a good and bad thing. The Knicks didn’t suck because of only because poor character, they lacked talent and the character issues made it worse for the team and fans. You can put those guys in the right environment and it would have worked, all together its a disaster.
Comment posted byHAH!on April 18, 2008 at 5:59 pm (#661414)
You can put those guys in the right environment and it would have worked, all together its a disaster.
In what environment did any of these players excell in? Stephom Marbury, especially, was a failure everyhwere he went and he was supposed to be the team leader?
Comment posted byDepon April 18, 2008 at 5:59 pm (#661416)
LOL Simons, you so funny.
i gotta run boys, i may be on for the game or not! who knows!
lataz
Comment posted byDoctorK16on April 18, 2008 at 6:02 pm (#661417)
In what environment did any of these players excell in? Stephom Marbury, especially, was a failure everyhwere he went and he was supposed to be the team leader?
This is true, it doesn’t mean that in the right place they weren’t salvageable. I think chemistry and character are overused in sports in general.
Comment posted byHAH!on April 18, 2008 at 6:02 pm (#661418)
Happened in Tampa….. Gooden better have an alibi
Ouch, c’mon now. That was a lowblow…and we all now how Doc love’s his blow! LOL!
Comment posted bySimonson April 18, 2008 at 6:03 pm (#661419)
nice one
Comment posted byHAH!on April 18, 2008 at 6:06 pm (#661420)
This is true, it doesn’t mean that in the right place they weren’t salvageable. I think chemistry and character are overused in sports in general
Explain to me this hypothetical environment? Many of these players have gone from team to team and never sniffed consistent success. It seems as if you are just making up an ideal scenario where these players could win in. Yes, if Marbury accepted a backup role on the 1997 Bulls, he’d excell. The point is that Thomas selected him to be the starting point guard and leader of the Knicks just like he banked on Curry developing into the next Baby Shaq and picked up Randolph and Francis because they could supposedly could score some. Too bad none of these players knew the first thing about working as part of a winning unit.
Comment posted bySimonson April 18, 2008 at 6:08 pm (#661421)
Comment posted byDoctorK16on April 18, 2008 at 6:09 pm (#661422)
Dennis Rodman, malcontent in San Antonio and Dallas. Winner on the Bulls and Pistons.
Latrell Sprewell, coach choker in Golden State, star in New York.
Comment posted byDoctorK16on April 18, 2008 at 6:10 pm (#661423)
Randy Moss, pain in the ass in Minny and Oakland, working well in New England.
Comment posted byDoctorK16on April 18, 2008 at 6:11 pm (#661424)
A man named Joseph Dion says he is the person identified in Jose Canseco’s book as “Max,” the person Canseco claims was a steroids dealer he introduced to Alex Rodriguez, Sports Illustrated reported on its Web site Friday.
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Dion said he trained Rodriguez for four years when A-Rod was with Seattle. Dion denied Canseco’s account in “Vindicated” that “Max” was a fan of steroids.
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Comment posted byHAH!on April 18, 2008 at 6:15 pm (#661425)
Dennis Rodman had won everywhere he played, that is a terrible comparison. He won in Detroit, San Antonio and then with the Bulls. He was a very unselfish player who understood his role on his team and what his limitations were.
Latrell Sprewell, is an interesting case, but was also a definate mixed bag and is certainly a guy who needed to be at the right place at the right time since he also played on his best behavior due to the circumstances which he was trying to live down. Therefore, he is unique to say the least. Even then, at no point was he entrusted with leading the Knicks. He did enjoy great success with the Knicks and experienced success on a talented team before he went to Minnesota and totally screwed shit up there.
Comment posted byHAH!on April 18, 2008 at 6:17 pm (#661427)
Randy Moss, pain in the ass in Minny and Oakland, working well in New England.
Another mixed bag like Spreewell who was playing for a contract in a sport that will cut your ass. We will see more about him but it isn’t a good fit to compare football players and basketball players with guaranteed contracts like the ones Marbury, Curry, and Randolph recieved.
Comment posted bySimonson April 18, 2008 at 6:18 pm (#661429)
Thats a good and bad thing. The Knicks didn’t suck because of only because poor character, they lacked talent and the character issues made it worse for the team and fans. You can put those guys in the right environment and it would have worked, all together its a disaster.
In what environment did any of these players excell in? Stephom Marbury, especially, was a failure everyhwere he went and he was supposed to be the team leader?
LOL Simons, you so funny.
i gotta run boys, i may be on for the game or not! who knows!
lataz
This is true, it doesn’t mean that in the right place they weren’t salvageable. I think chemistry and character are overused in sports in general.
Ouch, c’mon now. That was a lowblow…and we all now how Doc love’s his blow! LOL!
nice one
Explain to me this hypothetical environment? Many of these players have gone from team to team and never sniffed consistent success. It seems as if you are just making up an ideal scenario where these players could win in. Yes, if Marbury accepted a backup role on the 1997 Bulls, he’d excell. The point is that Thomas selected him to be the starting point guard and leader of the Knicks just like he banked on Curry developing into the next Baby Shaq and picked up Randolph and Francis because they could supposedly could score some. Too bad none of these players knew the first thing about working as part of a winning unit.
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Dennis Rodman, malcontent in San Antonio and Dallas. Winner on the Bulls and Pistons.
Latrell Sprewell, coach choker in Golden State, star in New York.
Randy Moss, pain in the ass in Minny and Oakland, working well in New England.
Dennis Rodman had won everywhere he played, that is a terrible comparison. He won in Detroit, San Antonio and then with the Bulls. He was a very unselfish player who understood his role on his team and what his limitations were.
Latrell Sprewell, is an interesting case, but was also a definate mixed bag and is certainly a guy who needed to be at the right place at the right time since he also played on his best behavior due to the circumstances which he was trying to live down. Therefore, he is unique to say the least. Even then, at no point was he entrusted with leading the Knicks. He did enjoy great success with the Knicks and experienced success on a talented team before he went to Minnesota and totally screwed shit up there.
Another mixed bag like Spreewell who was playing for a contract in a sport that will cut your ass. We will see more about him but it isn’t a good fit to compare football players and basketball players with guaranteed contracts like the ones Marbury, Curry, and Randolph recieved.
game up